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re: 11 day difference between Italy and the US
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:12 pm to GeauxLSUGRL
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:12 pm to GeauxLSUGRL
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Where are you finding these tables? I’ve bee. Trying to google charts but didn’t have much luck
Here you go:
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:17 pm to Antonio Moss
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Of course,
My point was simple. In terms of important things like healthcare capacity (which is the problem in Italy) per capita infection rates are incredibly important.
ETA: and, in fairness, looking at this on national level isn’t very helpful given the regional nature of healthcare.
Ah, I see what you’re saying. I agree.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:18 pm to StringedInstruments
I’m no expert but I don’t think viruses such as this fare well in warmer weather. I think it’s good that it reached us a little later because it’s a little warmer. I predict it will start to fade as it gets warmer, sort of like the flu does.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:19 pm to StringedInstruments
Your chart is nonsense
Everyone with a brain realizes this virus expanded around the world due to Chinese nationals traveling from China in relation to their New Year
So knowing that the start date for all countries was late Jan, run your chart again
Everyone with a brain realizes this virus expanded around the world due to Chinese nationals traveling from China in relation to their New Year
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Chinese New Year for the year 2020 is celebrated/ observed on Saturday, January 25.
So knowing that the start date for all countries was late Jan, run your chart again
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The first cases of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in Italy were confirmed on 31 January 2020, when two Chinese tourists in Rome tested positive for coronavirus disease 2019,
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The first confirmed case in the United States of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic was announced on January 21, 2020
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:20 pm to Alt26
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So Italy canceled their NCAAT Tournament too?!
no worse, seria A
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:21 pm to Antonio Moss
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Of course,
My point was simple. In terms of important things like healthcare capacity (which is the problem in Italy) per capita infection rates are incredibly important.
ETA: and, in fairness, looking at this on national level isn’t very helpful given the regional nature of healthcare.
Yep which is scary since the USA has less hospital beds per capita than Italy...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/upshot/coronavirus-biggest-worry-hospital-capacity.html
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Our country has only 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 people. That’s fewer than in Italy (3.2), China (4.3) and South Korea (12.3), all of which have had struggles. More important, there are only so many intensive care beds and ventilators.
It’s estimated that we have about 45,000 intensive care unit beds in the United States. In a moderate outbreak, about 200,000 Americans would need one.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:27 pm to ForeverLSU02
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Italy has 20% of our population though
So our numbers will probably be higher
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:27 pm to gpburdell
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Yep which is scary since the USA has less hospital beds per capita than Italy...
True but misleading.
We have the most critical care beds per capita in the world.
We have 34 per 100,000
Italy has 12 per 100,000
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:54 pm to bigpapamac
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Until you realize our numbers are so small because we haven’t been adequately testing.
So using your logic, Italy has tested every single citizen?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:59 pm to StringedInstruments
Positives aren't the issue, it's the mortality rate and the US has gone down steadily while Italy hasn't.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:01 pm to StringedInstruments
Is any of that accurate? There are fake charts all over the place.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:02 pm to TRUERockyTop
Thsi chart har 800+ more infected than the johns hopkins chart and 8 more deaths
Whats the deal? I trust JH more than Worldometer but JH has had issues with the thing past couple days.
Whats the deal? I trust JH more than Worldometer but JH has had issues with the thing past couple days.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:17 pm to StringedInstruments
Yep! They say all the major countries are on that trend. It's gon get real interesting.
LINK
LINK
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:18 pm to Antonio Moss
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We have 34 per 100,000
Italy has 12 per 100,000
The relevant statistic is what is the occupancy % of those beds.
How many are free at the moment?
Most hospitals have near full ICU's with patients for other things.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:28 pm to gpburdell
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I'd like to see #s of tests run compared to Italy. We have many more people infected than the number posted.
Data is a few days old
LINK
This page has higher numbers for US even through March 8th, but it also includes state public lab testings. 8th - 11th don't have final numbers yet, but US is pushing 16,000 tests through March 11th after final state numbers sent to CDC.for 8th - 11th. Even CDC alone had over 3,800 tests up to March 7th & with states US totals were closer to 11,000 up to March 7th. Not saying that's enough, but It Is just more than 1,707 by March 8th.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.html
Edit to update estimate after numbers through March 11 updated today.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:57 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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Wow. Hope we do a better job at containing the spread, but that’s definitely a pattern I’d be shocked if we do not have more than 12,000 cases on March 22nd.
If we have 12,000 cases or less on 3/22, it would be a huge success.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:16 pm to gpburdell
That estimate of 45k ICU beds is totally wrong. It’s currently 97,700
American Hospital Association.
American Hospital Association.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:24 pm to OldSouth
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Scary, but we do have 5 times their population
And orders of magnitude times their land area
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:45 pm to StringedInstruments
This is exactly why everything is on hold. Cut the top of the curve off.
Anybody who isn’t a moron understands this.
I admittedly initially thought the cancellations were dumb. But after seeing the data, it makes sense.
Anybody who isn’t a moron understands this.
I admittedly initially thought the cancellations were dumb. But after seeing the data, it makes sense.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:48 pm to Cymry Teigr
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That estimate of 45k ICU beds is totally wrong. It’s currently 97,700
How many are available?
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