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re: 11 day difference between Italy and the US
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:55 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:55 pm to PhilipMarlowe
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What’s the rate of testing over there though? because we are way behind in the states
Can't have high numbers if you can't confirm cases.
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:00 pm to RedPop4
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Anyone else see that speculation/analysis?
We have about 20 big Chinatowns across this country.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:02 pm to StringedInstruments
Why doesn't it show the last two days.. Because our number of cases fell way below Italy's rate?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:03 pm to 9Fiddy
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Wow. Hope we do a better job at containing the spread, but that’s definitely a pattern
I’d be shocked if we do not have more than 12,000 cases on March 22nd.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:03 pm to The Boat
I'd like to see #s of tests run compared to Italy. We have many more people infected than the number posted.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:04 pm to StringedInstruments
Looks good on us considering we have 6 times the population of Italy
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:04 pm to heatom2
We have way more people too. A per capita chart would at least bring a little bit of honesty to it.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:05 pm to The Boat
No, actually I think we are going to have more. It’s just an old graphic.
But as been pointed out, it doesn’t really make sense since this relies upon testing, and the populations are different. Like what about a countries borders makes it spread at the same rate as another country? Why wouldn’t there be multiple separate spreads at the same rate within the US that would sum up to a multiple of this?
This graphic is “interesting” but I don’t think it is meaningful
But as been pointed out, it doesn’t really make sense since this relies upon testing, and the populations are different. Like what about a countries borders makes it spread at the same rate as another country? Why wouldn’t there be multiple separate spreads at the same rate within the US that would sum up to a multiple of this?
This graphic is “interesting” but I don’t think it is meaningful
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:06 pm to StringedInstruments
The US is not 11 days behind Italy.
Our first case was actually before theirs.
Wash your hands. Stay home if you are sick.
We are in the midst of some irrational decision making.
This is the real danger.
Keep your head together people
Our first case was actually before theirs.
Wash your hands. Stay home if you are sick.
We are in the midst of some irrational decision making.
This is the real danger.
Keep your head together people
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:06 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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I’d be shocked if we do not have more than 12,000 cases on March 22nd.
If we do that doesn’t mean we aren’t doing a better job at containing the spread
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:07 pm to RedPop4
quote:Yes and then the mayor told everyone to go hug a Chinese person to not appear racist
read somewhere that Italy has an unusually large number of Chinese nationals in their workforce and many of them went home for Tet, then returned. Anyone else see that speculation/analysis?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:10 pm to heatom2
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I'd like to see #s of tests run compared to Italy. We have many more people infected than the number posted.
So do the Italians; so does everyone else.
Even in places where testing is widespread, there are still thousands infected with mild or no symptoms that did not get tested.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:11 pm to wildtigercat93
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I can’t believe so many people in this thread are freaking out about this chart ?
Have you not had any interaction with anyone IRL this week? The public is very much freaking out based on charts and stats being put up on every screen imaginable. It's gotten beyond ridiculous with some of this stuff.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:11 pm to Malik Agar
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They also have a much higher population density, have an older population, and haven't taken the levels of prevention that we have.
And yet it's growing here at the same rate now as in Italy in their early days. This is NOT something to be taken as a positive. Nor is the "we're 5 times larger" which is universally taken as a positive in this thread, for some literally stupid reason. Being 5 times larger doesn't mean a hell of a lot when it takes a week or less for the number of infected people to increase by this amount.
Hopefully we'll see the rate of increase slow down in both Italy and the US. That hasn't happened yet.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:13 pm to The Boat
ok dude so the chart is misleading
I don't see why that makes our situation less of a concern
I don't see why that makes our situation less of a concern
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:15 pm to wildtigercat93
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If we do that doesn’t mean we aren’t doing a better job at containing the spread
Not suggesting that either. I don’t really think numbers can be trusted because not everyone that has it has been confirmed. I also do not think we will see anything near Italy’s mortality rate. Iran is doing a much better job with this thing than Italy, so that is not really the standard we should be shooting for. Once everyone cancels everything, buys up all the groceries and works from home for a few weeks we’ll be able to watch TV and realize this was not as bad as predicted.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:16 pm to colorchangintiger
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Given that the population density is much higher in Italy, thus transmission being easier, I'd say we're doing pretty poorly.
Bingo. You are one of the few who gets this.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:16 pm to TRUERockyTop
Where are you finding these tables? I’ve bee. Trying to google charts but didn’t have much luck
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:19 pm to GeauxLSUGRL
why would total infectable population be a factor in what this table seeks to show? Its not showing your odds of contracting the virus, its showing at what rate the virus spreads. Now we can slow the spread if we are proactive, or we can let it run.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:21 pm to Tigris
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Nor is the "we're 5 times larger" which is universally taken as a positive in this thread, for some literally stupid reason. Being 5 times larger doesn't mean a hell of a lot when it takes a week or less for the number of infected people to increase by this amount.
Are you serious?
This, like every spread, will be a wave. Our wave is way under Italy’s in terms of per capita spread. That’s significant.
Let’s assume a wave doubles every day for ten days.
If one country starts at 2 per 100,000 and the second starts at 10 per 100,000 after ten days country number one is 1024 per 100,000 and country two would be at 5,210 per 100,000.
That’s five times the infection rate.
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