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re: 10:00 p.m. Curfew to Remain in EBR Thursday Night

Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69647 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:58 pm to
I'm just mad because apparently I've been missing out on the NYC level of events going on after 10 pm the week of the biggest natural disaster in Louisiana since hurricane Katrina.

frick the way the guys in this thread are talking, BR has a more active weeknight nightlife than NO.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:59 pm to
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I'm not sure that's a good idea for EBR right now... We can sit here and say "just increase patrols in such and such area." But let's not forget, some of these police officers also lost everything, and I would assume that every single one of them has been working their asses off since last Friday. The curfew allows for some of them to go home and see their family, get some rest, start rebuilding, etc...


Plenty of officers from throughout the state and region donated their time to patrol the streets of BR after the shootings.

And to your point, they should understand the need for businesses to be open to accommodate their work schedules and needs at the home.

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69647 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:00 pm to
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I missed the part in the constitution that says you have the right to drive from 10-6. Can you give me a link to that please?


You'll be waiting a long time...people don't realize just how few constitutional rights they have...which makes the ones we DO have, more precious.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61491 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:02 pm to
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And if a store closes at 8, then they lose out on 2 hours of business. Saying they close at 8 to give their employees time to get home is dumb because the Sheriff specifically said people traveling to and from work are excused

you obviously know more than the owners and managers of these businesses

FYI , several of the businesses in my neighborhood were operating normally (for a few days) until the curfew started
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:02 pm to
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A person going to and from the airport would not be punished with this curfew


You can not say this with any amount of certainty. You simply do not know what a cop will do with someone after curfew.

The day that I start taking a cops word for it, will be the same day you leave your gun in your car at a traffic stop because that person isn't going to beat your arse over rolling through a stop sign. Gahhh damn, that's stupid.

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Im sure that's exactly what the over worked BR emergency personnel need right now. A bunch of drunk college students blowing off steam


I appreciate everything they do but the harsh reality is nobody forced them to do it. They choose that road and part of that choice is dealing with other peoples bullshite. Nobody should be forced to do anything for sake of making another's job, easier.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:05 pm to
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I know many people at this moment running skeleton crews because their employees cant get to work and have more pressing issues Again, I fail to understand how this has anything at all to do with the curfew or how the curfew helps this in anyway.


I was providing an example of why someone may have to cut the operating hours.

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I think you just like hearing people tell others what to do. Or better yet, I think you are the type of person who yearns for the kind of power needed to decided what people can and can not do after an arbitrary time of day.


Could not be more wrong. In fact, I wish the whole world could operate without anyone ever having to be told what to do.

You act as if I advocated for the curfew to be permanent. I hate it for everyone involved. Im sorry so many people are stressed and stretched thin. Im sorry so many people have endured hardships and will continue to.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9268 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:05 pm to
No one shall be deprived of Liberty without due process. It could be very successfully argued that the confining us to residences after 10 pm at night is depriving us of Liberty.

The problem is the government shits on those rights when they want. At least in short spurts before they can get challenged in court. Regardless, it's bullshite, and for a site full of anti big government republicans I'm fairly shocked at the blind support for blatant government overreach.

Where's our right to eat pizza explicitly protected in the constitution? Can the government just shut down pizza places? I mean they could and should be able to according to your logic
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61491 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:08 pm to
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You can not say this with any amount of certainty. You simply do not know what a cop will do with someone after curfew.
Idk man, BRPD is a very intelligent, professional group.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116445 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:08 pm to
Have people missed the irony that FelicianaTigerFan is a cop and is getting paid OT because Of this curfew?
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:11 pm to
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I missed the part in the constitution that says you have the right to drive from 10-6. Can you give me a link to that please?

Your Google must be broken.

Thompson v.Smith, 154 SE 579, 11 American Jurisprudence, Constitutional Law, section 329, page 1135
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“The right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, in the ordinary course of life and business, is a common right which he has under the right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right, in so doing, to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day, and under the existing modes of travel, includes the right to drive a horse drawn carriage or wagon thereon or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual and ordinary purpose of life and business.”
Teche Lines vs. Danforth, Miss., 12 S.2d 784
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“… the right of the citizen to drive on a public street with freedom from police interference… is a fundamental constitutional right”
White, 97 Cal.App.3d.141, 158 Cal.Rptr. 562, 566-67 (1979)
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“citizens have a right to drive upon the public streets of the District of Columbia or any other city absent a constitutionally sound reason for limiting their access.”
Caneisha Mills v. D.C. 2009
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“The use of the automobile as a necessary adjunct to the earning of a livelihood in modern life requires us in the interest of realism to conclude that the RIGHT to use an automobile on the public highways partakes of the nature of a liberty within the meaning of the Constitutional guarantees. . .”

Berberian v. Lussier (1958) 139 A2d 869, 872, See also: Schecter v. Killingsworth, 380 P.2d 136, 140; 93 Ariz. 273 (1963).
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“The right to operate a motor vehicle [an automobile] upon the public streets and highways is not a mere privilege. It is a right of liberty, the enjoyment of which is protected by the guarantees of the federal and state constitutions.”

Adams v. City of Pocatello, 416 P.2d 46, 48; 91 Idaho 99 (1966).
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“A traveler has an equal right to employ an automobile as a means of transportation and to occupy the public highways with other vehicles in common use.”

Campbell v. Walker, 78 Atl. 601, 603, 2 Boyce (Del.) 41.
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“The owner of an automobile has the same right as the owner of other vehicles to use the highway,* * * A traveler on foot has the same right to the use of the public highways as an automobile or any other vehicle.”

Simeone v. Lindsay, 65 Atl. 778, 779; Hannigan v. Wright, 63 Atl. 234, 236.
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“The RIGHT of the citizen to DRIVE on the public street with freedom from police interference, unless he is engaged in suspicious conduct associated in some manner with criminality is a FUNDAMENTAL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT which must be protected by the courts.”
People v. Horton 14 Cal. App. 3rd 667 (1971)
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“The right to make use of an automobile as a vehicle of travel long the highways of the state, is no longer an open question. The owners thereof have the same rights in the roads and streets as the drivers of horses or those riding a bicycle or traveling in some other vehicle.”


This is just a handful of opinions on the matter. Hope that helps.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:13 pm to
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Have people missed the irony that FelicianaTigerFan is a cop and is getting paid OT because Of this curfew?


Im taking a dump right now and about to go get some beer and cook some backstrap on the pit this afternoon. Im not real sure what the frick you're talking about
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112530 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:13 pm to
Strong with the boom.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112530 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:14 pm to
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You'll be waiting a long time...people don't realize just how few constitutional rights they have...which makes the ones we DO have, more precious.

Seems like it took strong only about 10 minutes.....
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:14 pm to
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about to go get some beer and cook some backstrap on the pit


Can we all agree on this at least?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20379 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:15 pm to
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No one shall be deprived of Liberty without due process. It could be very successfully argued that the confining us to residences after 10 pm at night is depriving us of Liberty.

The problem is the government shits on those rights when they want. At least in short spurts before they can get challenged in court. Regardless, it's bullshite, and for a site full of anti big government republicans I'm fairly shocked at the blind support for blatant government overreach.


I was going to post this very thing. Not to mention that the primary power of the curfew is to stop anyone without cause and question their activities. There is that whole 4th Amendment thing being suspended in this instance.

I am also astounded at how blind people are being to this. There is a much larger issue here than being able to go get a beer at 10:30. Welcoming governmental intrusion into your activities and applauding them being able to stop anyone they want and "use their discretion" as to whether your activities are acceptable is fricking scary.

I can't get how the OT isn't on fire over this.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:15 pm to
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You'll be waiting a long time
Only about 10 minutes, because my computer is a piece of shite.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:18 pm to
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TigerGman
Just going to bump this.
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Specifically, how driving on the road from 10pm to 6am is a privilege and not a right?

Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9268 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:21 pm to
Very nice. But all legal issues and facts and everything aside, it's just a dick and unnecessary move by Gautreaux bc he wants to plop his down on the table next to the mayor's and prove his is bigger
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104448 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:22 pm to
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Very nice. But all legal issues and facts and everything aside, it's just a dick and unnecessary move by Gautreaux bc he wants to plop his down on the table next to the mayor's and prove his is bigger


Basically.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112530 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 4:22 pm to
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bc he wants to plop his down on the table next to the mayor's and prove his is bigger
Kip is a brother, he wins. The only reason why Gautreauxs is bigger is because he used his and his butt buddy JBE to add up to be bigger than Kips
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