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Sean Paytons arrogance has doomed the Broncos
Posted on 4/30/24 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 4/30/24 at 12:52 pm
Listening to Russelo yesterday, it's apparent that only the Broncos (Payton) had a first round grade on Bo Nix. Payton could have easily traded down and gotten a high second round pick (maybe even another first) and still landed Nix, but his attitude was "frick it" - he wants to prove how smart he is.
It's kind of the same shite that manifested itself here in smaller ways over and over again. Stupid challenges out of anger that were doomed to fail, trick plays that were too cute and failed, aggressive trades up and risky FA signings - future be damned.
Last year Sean started his first ever Broncos game with a surprise onside kick.. It failed, the Raiders scored on a short field, and the Broncos lost by a point.
As mediocre as DA is, I'm really glad we don't have this imbecile running our team anymore.
Imagine spending a 12th overall pick on a dude who wasn't ranked in the top 50 players by the majority of teams.
It's kind of the same shite that manifested itself here in smaller ways over and over again. Stupid challenges out of anger that were doomed to fail, trick plays that were too cute and failed, aggressive trades up and risky FA signings - future be damned.
Last year Sean started his first ever Broncos game with a surprise onside kick.. It failed, the Raiders scored on a short field, and the Broncos lost by a point.
As mediocre as DA is, I'm really glad we don't have this imbecile running our team anymore.
Imagine spending a 12th overall pick on a dude who wasn't ranked in the top 50 players by the majority of teams.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 12:54 pm
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 12:54 pm to SirWinston
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Listening to Russelo yesterday, it's apparent that only the Broncos (Payton) had a first round grade on Bo Nix. Payton could have easily traded down and gotten a high second round pick (maybe even another first) and still landed Nix, but his attitude was "frick it" - he wants to prove how smart he is.
No one could possibly know this
I'm a firm believer that you trust your own grades, and if you want a player, you take him. You can't know what will happen
And you may be wrong, and then you get fired
Posted on 4/30/24 at 12:57 pm to SirWinston
I appreciate what Sean did for us, but I attribute most of our success to Brees.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:05 pm to SirWinston
Nix kept getting some comparisons to Brees pre draft and I don't get that at all. Maybe it's the ability to process information but as far as passing the football they're not even close at the college level. Brees was chucking it all over the yard while Nix had a bunch of short passes turned into long gains by the receiver. Occasionally he would let a deep ball rip and hit it but just not nearly as often as Brees.
As for coach Payton, he definitely held the players to a high standard and I think he commanded more respect than Dennis does but you're right he would make some bone-headed decisions he wasn't perfect.
A pet peeve of mine was that he burned timeouts just to get the perfect play in. DA at least hold on to the timeouts until the end of the game usually.
As for coach Payton, he definitely held the players to a high standard and I think he commanded more respect than Dennis does but you're right he would make some bone-headed decisions he wasn't perfect.
A pet peeve of mine was that he burned timeouts just to get the perfect play in. DA at least hold on to the timeouts until the end of the game usually.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:10 pm to SirWinston
I love Payton but his comments about “baiting Minnesota” to trade up just goes to show how he cares just as much about proving how smart and right he is as he does actually winning.
I think his arrogance and pride cost us some additional titles with Brees
I think his arrogance and pride cost us some additional titles with Brees
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:18 pm to WicKed WayZ
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I love Payton but his comments about “baiting Minnesota” to trade up just goes to show how he cares just as much about proving how smart and right he is as he does actually winning. I think his arrogance and pride cost us some additional titles with Brees
He was constantly doing stuff like this too. The Choking gesture he did to the falcons and then lost was some of his finest work.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:21 pm to BROpaneTANK
"You worry about your meat".
Dudes ego is out of control. He is a very good leader of men, easily top 5 in the league in that one category. That's what saves him. But I don't think he'll sniff another title again.
Dudes ego is out of control. He is a very good leader of men, easily top 5 in the league in that one category. That's what saves him. But I don't think he'll sniff another title again.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:22 pm to SirWinston
bad take. You don't frick around not taking the qb that you deem you want. You draft him. fricking penix went 8. They were in no position to play chicken.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:34 pm to WicKed WayZ
Remember when he orchestrated the trade of a future sixth rd pick to get Tommy Stevens in the 7th to prevent Carolina from drafting or signing him as an UDFA? I remember him saying something like while he thought Stevens had some upside, he also did it to frick with Carolina. Stevens was on the PS for two months, got cut, and signed with Carolina the next day anyway.
I know it was a low risk/cost move and Stevens never amounted to anything in the NFL, but it’s the kind of stupid crap he would pull at times.
I know it was a low risk/cost move and Stevens never amounted to anything in the NFL, but it’s the kind of stupid crap he would pull at times.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:34 pm to SirWinston
Sounds familiar. 
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:41 pm to SirWinston
At this point, the concerted planned attack by the NFL, its associates, its assigns, and its useful idiots is proof that the NFL fixed the no call game and contrived bountygate to mitigate concussion lawsuits.
The NFL must continue to malign CSP at every step of the way as an arrogant villain in order to coverup its own wrongdoings.
By demonizing an individual, it is no more than projection in hiding the fact that the NFL did select one team and one coach to take the fall by showing all the world that the players themselves were paying to injure themselves.
CSP will never be allowed to truly ever succeed in the NFL again. He is the black hat and the NFL is the white hat.
The subliminal projection is that the NFL did not fix the Rams Saints game with 4 Southern California refs and the Saints and CSP didn’t deserve to win a Superbowl because they are bountygate cheaters.
The NFL must continue to malign CSP at every step of the way as an arrogant villain in order to coverup its own wrongdoings.
By demonizing an individual, it is no more than projection in hiding the fact that the NFL did select one team and one coach to take the fall by showing all the world that the players themselves were paying to injure themselves.
CSP will never be allowed to truly ever succeed in the NFL again. He is the black hat and the NFL is the white hat.
The subliminal projection is that the NFL did not fix the Rams Saints game with 4 Southern California refs and the Saints and CSP didn’t deserve to win a Superbowl because they are bountygate cheaters.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:46 pm to SirWinston
He panicked. Thought Raiders were gonna take Nix.
I don't think they would have and he could have easily found a trade partner in the 20's who didn't need a QB
I don't think they would have and he could have easily found a trade partner in the 20's who didn't need a QB
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:46 pm to SirWinston
He can certainly be hard headed and arrogant, but I would take him back right now.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:47 pm to SirWinston
He had no qbs on his roster and couldn't let a team poach another qb ahead of him
He had just seen Atlanta take a qb way ahead of predictions. So yes he too was drafted higher than expected. His job is on the line and he knows it.
He had just seen Atlanta take a qb way ahead of predictions. So yes he too was drafted higher than expected. His job is on the line and he knows it.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:51 pm to BigTigerJoe
Uhhh, Payton had the 12 pick and took the 6th QB. Raiders needed a QB at 13. I am not defending the guy, but if you think Nix is the guy and the next best guy is Spencer Rattler, you take your guy at 12th and don't frick around trying to trade out of the pick.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:04 pm to jcaz
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He panicked.
Yea. He probably punching air that Rattler was available in the 5th.
quote:- Schefter
"The two teams that liked him most, Denver and Atlanta, I think they had a mid second early third grade on him.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:12 pm to SirWinston
When will this board stop talking about Sean Payton? I honestly could care less what the Broncos do.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:13 pm to Fun Bunch
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No one could possibly know this
I'm a firm believer that you trust your own grades, and if you want a player, you take him. You can't know what will happen
And you may be wrong, and then you get fired
Then why didn't Sean trade whatever needed to go up and get mahommes? He keeps saying how much he wanted him or some shite like that.
He can't have it both ways where he is never wrong
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:15 pm to SirWinston
Guys...it's been 2 years. Let it go.
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