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re: Kenny Pickett reminds me of Billy Kilmer

Posted on 4/7/22 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 2:28 pm to
Idk. He is a big question mark for me.

Usually you can point to something to explain why a 5thbyear senior blew up, but I dont See it here.

He was someone you draft in the 6th or not at all for 4 years and boom.

And he has the same OC for the last 4 years. His top WR was a Sophmore, but that makes me way more interested in the WR.

Idk what to say about him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 2:36 pm to
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He’s kind of seems like the type of QB that can play early and have success

I just don't understand why we assume this b/c he didn't do anything for FOUR years and had one pretty good (but nowhere close to amazing) year. He wasn't running some complicated scheme, either (although he was in one light years ahead of Willis or Corral's offense).
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 2:37 pm to
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What are they?


Hand size, age, lack of production are the big ones.

Not exactly a “winner” as you say. I think that is just code for average QB prospect with a few intangibles
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
67008 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 2:37 pm to
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My memory of Billy Kilmer was that he was a super tough guy who played hurt, even with a broken foot, and that his passes looked like wounded ducks. We used to boo him out of Tulane Stadium and 80,000 fans would be chanting "We want Hargett, We want Hargett".
Those were some days. I remember them well

Kilmer went on to lead the Redskins to a Super Bowl in 1976
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 2:51 pm to
Mate here's an example of a scenario in which I'd be happy to have us draft young Pickett.

Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
67008 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:02 pm to
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Not exactly a “winner” as you say.
When I say "winner" I'm thinking strictly of leadership. A guy who can elevate the play of his teammates
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 4:37 pm to
I’ve been watching videos of this years QB class,

Howell is the one who seems to stand out, at least to my ignorant arse.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25826 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:44 pm to
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I just don't understand why we assume this b/c he didn't do anything for FOUR years and had one pretty good (but nowhere close to amazing) year. He wasn't running some complicated scheme, either (although he was in one light years ahead of Willis or Corral's offense).


Bc of he’s pretty consistent - he can thrive out of the pocket an in rhythm, as opposed to a guy like Willis where you have to get him on the move.

His arm strength is pretty good and he does pretty well at short, intermediate, and deep throws. He’s just solid all around but the upside is limited.

So for me conventional wisdom tells be he’s malleable and can fit right away into multiple systems and perform early. Maybe it turns out last year at Pitt was lightning in a bottle,but who knows. FWIW I would take Corral for the upside bc he’s a better athlete with more arm talent, but to each their own.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 8:27 pm to
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Kenny Pickett reminds me of Billy Kilmer
I’m late to this thread, but kudos for Kilmer ref.

I hope we don’t draft a QB, but I’m on record of having no idea who’s going to work out QB wise.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34878 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:17 pm to
Can he throw a spiral?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61085 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 11:02 pm to
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remember a qb that had all those knocks. I think he plays for the Bengals now if I recall.


Yes but that guy won a NC he didn’t opt out of the Peach Bowl.

I’d rather take Howell or flyer on Willis
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291703 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 11:29 pm to
And didn’t start 3 years & suck
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16694 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 3:25 am to
When was the last time Pitt had been in a BCS/NY6 bowl? And Pickett turned up his nose. Tells me all I need to know.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481279 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 6:47 am to
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I’d rather take Howell

I think Howell and Willis are the only guys worth gambling on and that would require late 1sts at most (but honestly more likely 2nds).

Howell has shown a lot more than Pickett in the same conference over 3 years. I can only imagine what he'd do to the ACC 2 years from now (to put him at his 5th year like Pickett was this year).

Willis, obviously, has the most physical upside.
Posted by Bedatitwas
Member since Jan 2019
123 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:14 am to
Everybody thought Kilmer was a bum in New Orleans until he went to Washington and took them to the Super Bowl... Then we realized that it was the owner who was the bum....
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25826 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:29 am to
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When was the last time Pitt had been in a BCS/NY6 bowl? And Pickett turned up his nose. Tells me all I need to know.


I think it's impressive that Pickett lead them to a NY6 Bowl - that's not easy to do. The ACC was pretty weak last year though, but impressive nonetheless.
Posted by tigernnola
NOLA
Member since Sep 2016
3589 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:30 am to
Kilmer ?

Great leadership - best beer gut on the team - always leading the party

Adequate arm - his screen passes wobbled

Some mobility - limited between the guards

Poor comparison
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
43564 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:40 am to
Billy was a beer drinkin' slinger.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
43564 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:42 am to
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
8504 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:16 am to
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Our defense is old and slow,


So let me get this straight. Our top defense from last year lost the oldest player on it and one young safety. But somehow one of the best defenses in the nfl is now old and slow
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