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Dennis Allen or Bust

Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:34 pm
Posted by AFATiger
Member since Sep 2021
32 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:34 pm
There are other options that would be good, but honestly, none of them are as sensible as promoting Dennis Allen and making sure we have an elite defense from here on out. The best thing, though, is that he had his best performance as DC with the team he should be the head coach of.
100% he should be our guy.
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
851 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:37 pm to
Assistant Head Coach Ryan Nielsen. DA will be a bust.
Posted by oncealurker
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
5061 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:37 pm to
But can he run the Joe Brady Offense?
Posted by AFATiger
Member since Sep 2021
32 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:39 pm to
Why worry about that when he can hire Joe Brady!?

*Sarcasm*
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45143 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:25 pm to
Dennis Allen needs to be the guy
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5026 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:57 pm to
Allen as the HC would be perfect for Brady.

Allen seems like the type that would give Brady total autonomy over the offense unlike Ja Rhule.
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:17 pm to
has there ever been a successful coordinator that takes over as head coach? Need to blow it up and start over
This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 11:18 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:21 pm to
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has there ever been a successful coordinator that takes over as head coach?


Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1873 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:42 am to
Gross.

Effing gross.

This would be like stop watching Saints games bad.

Dennis Allen has to be one of the worst coaches in football. He would be ABYSMAL as a HC. He’s a garbage arse DC. The only reason the Defense is decent is because Ryan Nielsen has the DL playing unstoppably.

I’d rather see Nielsen be given the gig if we had to hire in-house.
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
2896 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:52 am to
quote:

Dennis Allen has to be one of the worst coaches in football. He would be ABYSMAL as a HC. He’s a garbage arse DC. The only reason the Defense is decent is because Ryan Nielsen has the DL playing unstoppably.


My goodness we have found it. The worst take ever. Congrats

Dennis Allen is an elite DC and top 5 in the league. He is an absolute miracle worker on defense. He took over a historically bad defense and brought it to where it is today. Dominant! Even years up to this point where we may have started slow and looked bad in the beginning of a year he has been able to make adjustments and turn the defense around.
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 4:33 am to
Carmichael has been dealing with Payton 's offense since day 1. Why would we give the play calling to Payton's gopher, who failed miserably in Carolina, rather than the guy who can keep Payton's play calling and scheme intact. Brady at LSU was a one hit wonder mainly because the QB had finally figured out the QB position.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5026 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 7:06 am to
Dont necessarily disagree but lets be honest about Carolina. He was kind of a scapegoat for Rhule who thought it would be a good idea to trade for Sam Darnold after trading Bridgewater 1 year into a major deal.

Rhule is in over his head. Not sure how much Brady contributed to that or not
Posted by AFATiger
Member since Sep 2021
32 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 7:45 am to
Agreed. If we don’t keep Carmichael, let him call plays, and promote Allen to HC, I will never forgive the front office if it fails. This is the smart, easy thing to do. We were injuries away from winning the division again. No need to shake things up.

If we do just that and we still suck, then by all means go clean house.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422073 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 7:50 am to
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Carmichael has been dealing with Payton 's offense since day 1. Why would we give the play calling to Payton's gopher, who failed miserably in Carolina, rather than the guy who can keep Payton's play calling and scheme intact. Brady at LSU was a one hit wonder mainly because the QB had finally figured out the QB position.

Does he want it?

Carmichael actually is the perfect mentor-compliment to Brady, but they'd both have to work together which is the issue.

I think Brady's head is very big and he feels above that.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27190 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 7:56 am to
I'm sure carmichael would love to be the oc.
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
2838 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:00 am to
Allen to HC and Nielson to DC
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422073 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:05 am to
Then I'm fine with an Allen/Carmichael/Nielsen trio.

We're not likely to have a shot at the SF OC and Daboll is going to the Giants, so no reason to blow things up when good options aren't there.
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
670 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:07 am to
I believe we need to grab a former head coach or a great OC who is HC ready.

I also think we need a QB1; SP saw the writing on the wall. No QB1, diminished WR core and multiple cap issues.

We need Dennis Allen to run our defense.
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1873 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:05 pm to
The fact that people actually WANT Dennis Allen to be the HC shows how dumb our fan base actually is...

A guy that has literally never had another offer to be a coach anywhere in the better part of a decade.

He’s a garbage DC propped up by Nielsen’s D Line (which is why Nielsen got the assistant HC gig because people actually would want to hire him for something)

Everybody in the league knows Allen is a fraud. Payton’s biggest black eyes on his coaching career is keeping friends on staff. Allen and Carmichael bring very little to the table
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9432 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:07 pm to
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The only reason the Defense is decent is because Ryan Nielsen has the DL playing unstoppably.


You people are so easy to read.

LSU can do no wrong, everything they touch is gold, the Saints are an awful org, blah blah blah

Why are you so jealous that the state loves the Saints more?
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 1:08 pm
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