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re: At what point do you fire Dennis Allen and start trading veterans
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:39 am to Swagga
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:39 am to Swagga
As a backup Winston is serviceable. But with a porous offensive line like we have I suspect Jalen Hurts would have a tough day.
Saints problems on offense went beyond the OL though. With no capable RB like Kamara or Jamal we become one dimensional. Then factor in that our best blocking TE was out as well.
But, Penning is a liability right now as LT and that is brutal because he is to protect a right handed QB's blind side and he is getting pushed back and run around on pass plays. Onthe other side, when the Saints add a TE or extra blocker to Penning's side the Defense shifts and goes right at Ram and Ruiz. Does not matter if Prentice is brought in as a fullback.
I was watching the blocking schemes over the last few weeks and the OL looks confused at times especially on the left side. I suspect Penning sometimes thinks he is going to have more help on his outside but does not get it .
Saints problems on offense went beyond the OL though. With no capable RB like Kamara or Jamal we become one dimensional. Then factor in that our best blocking TE was out as well.
But, Penning is a liability right now as LT and that is brutal because he is to protect a right handed QB's blind side and he is getting pushed back and run around on pass plays. Onthe other side, when the Saints add a TE or extra blocker to Penning's side the Defense shifts and goes right at Ram and Ruiz. Does not matter if Prentice is brought in as a fullback.
I was watching the blocking schemes over the last few weeks and the OL looks confused at times especially on the left side. I suspect Penning sometimes thinks he is going to have more help on his outside but does not get it .
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:51 am to Bayou
Winston was under contract... Dalton wasn't. Couldn't just eat Winston's money
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:00 am to grant613
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We’re 2-1 and probably will be tied for first place in the division after Monday night. You people are idiots here. We lose a game on the road that you’re starting qb gets knocked out of and immediately y’all coming with the let’s trade everyone take. Saints fans equals the dumbest fans in the league.
Agreed, just look at Allen’s track record as head coach. He’ll get it turned around no doubt!
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:02 am to HangmanPage1
Yesterday
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:17 am to grant613
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We’re 2-1 and probably will be tied for first place in the division after Monday night. You people are idiots here. We lose a game on the road that you’re starting qb gets knocked out of and immediately y’all coming with the let’s trade everyone take.
Well, we spent a lot of money and fricked our future for that QB and we have looked like dogshit on offense with him, and the only argument for signing him was to win the division. So losing him really puts us in a bad spot and it' natural for fans to react to that.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:36 am to Colonel Flagg
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I think most teams would have a problem if they lost their starting QB mid game.
The offense was struggling to put up points all game. It's beens struggling to score points all year.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:39 am to Swagga
We are, at worst, 1 game out of the #1 seed and probably tied for the division lead after tonight. maybe we don't make rash decisions?
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:53 am to HangmanPage1
Take your loss Sean.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:40 am to HangmanPage1
Ive been hearing about this "window" for 10 years now. Stfu.
They are 2-1 in a crappy division. The amount of beta arse quitter scared of your own shadow wimps who post here are ridiculous
They are 2-1 in a crappy division. The amount of beta arse quitter scared of your own shadow wimps who post here are ridiculous
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:42 am to HangmanPage1
Not gonna happen this year.
I think if its same old shite next year you HAVE to at least consider it, and put yourself in the Shadeur Sanders/Prime as HC sweepstakes.
I think if its same old shite next year you HAVE to at least consider it, and put yourself in the Shadeur Sanders/Prime as HC sweepstakes.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:43 am to saints5021
quote:My decision isn’t based on yesterday, but only reinforces my opinion that Allen can’t do it. And we are still kicking the Brees cap can among others down the road. We have been needing to bite the bullet and rebuild.
We are, at worst, 1 game out of the #1 seed and probably tied for the division lead after tonight. maybe we don't make rash decisions?
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:47 am to HangmanPage1
Every fan that wants a rebuild doesn't want it when it actually happens.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:09 am to KiwiHead
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But, Penning is a liability right now as LT and that is brutal because he is to protect a right handed QB's blind side and he is getting pushed back and run around on pass plays. Onthe other side, when the Saints add a TE or extra blocker to Penning's side the Defense shifts and goes right at Ram and Ruiz. Does not matter if Prentice is brought in as a fullback.
When every weak the announcers point out your lt is a beast in the running game but can't protect in the passing game, that is a problem
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:17 pm to grant613
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We’re 2-1 and probably will be tied for first place in the division after Monday night. You people are idiots here. We lose a game on the road that you’re starting qb gets knocked out of and immediately y’all coming with the let’s trade everyone take. Saints fans equals the dumbest fans in the league.
We’ve looked like absolute shite on offense in every game. A good team like 9wes, eagles, dolphins would run us off the field.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:51 pm to HangmanPage1
Offense was not on par but neither was the defense. Am I the only one that saw Love have plenty time to find an open receiver? Hardly no pressure at all the whole 2nd half. Pitiful. Both lines got beat all day and that's what lost the game for us. Oh and we did miss a game winning FG because the rookie choked up. It happens.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:54 pm to Gavin Elster
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He’ll be fired after the season.
So much has to happen for this to be the case. All of you casuals come in and think we're boned but this defense is playing lights out and we have the softest schedule in the league. We could trot out Jake Haener the rest of the way and we'd still win 7 games. We've basically gone 2-1, almost 3-0, with next to no help from the offense.This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:52 pm to moneyg
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I think if you replace Carmichael, this team could make the playoffs with Allen.
i agree with this, but you arent getting rid of Carmichael without getting rid of DA.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:14 pm to HangmanPage1
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At what point do you fire Dennis Allen and start trading veterans
certainly not after the third game of the season
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:21 pm to HangmanPage1
You should be a owner. Like Dan Snyder!
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:37 pm to Rand AlThor
I said earlier, you don’t tear shite down. I merely meant you don’t get rid of all your players and talent. If Allen isn’t getting it done, go get a new coach. Hell, a new GM is probably isn’t a bad idea. Once you start getting rid of talent, then you’re at the mercy of the draft. That’s a terrible place to be.
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