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re: Zion's bubble injury kept secret from team(coaches)?
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:01 pm to Broski
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:01 pm to Broski
quote:Hmm..why can't I see this tweet?
So Shamit just tweeted about this post and said "let's just say I can't refute any of that"
I see he's tweeted a lot today but nothing in the past 3 hours.
ETA: I see it now, it was posted a bit earlier around noon
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 5:12 pm
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:01 pm to shel311
Wow! All of this and we haven’t even started the season yet lol!
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:36 pm to Broski
quote:
So Shamit just tweeted about this post and said "let's just say I can't refute any of that"
Hey guys it's all good. We hired Willie to fix allllllllllll of this. He's head coach/head shrink.
Let's just pretend this article never happened and go look at Zion drilling his first 4 3s of his career again.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:56 pm to TigerinATL
Lots of overreactions here.
First of all, I don't really care how close of a "relationship" Zion has with Griffin. Seriously, y'all are acting as though this is some daytime soap opera. Zion doesn't have to be impressed with Griffin's piano abilities. Zion doesn't even need to like Griff.
Let's get real -- how many other stories are there about how close other stars are with their GMs? Like, who cares? Zion isn't going to make his decision about whether or not to stay in New Orleans based on his personal relationship with Griff. He's going to make that decision based on whether or not he thinks that he can win a title here.
And that's why "just win" is really the only answer. We already knew that Zion was unhappy with the franchise, and we've seen it confirmed before that Zion doesn't hate Griff or anyone else in the front office, but that he just wants to win. If the team doesn't win a lot more games this season, then Zion is going to want out.
It is disappointing that Zion is still immature in some ways and isn't working out and watching his diet at the level a true professional should. As SVG put it, Zion hasn't been in "point guard" shape.
It's also disappointing that he isn't showing up to the workouts, but we don't know why that is. Is he out partying? Lazy? Angry at the organization? Too busy with sponsor stuff?
whatiknowsofar, I do think that the Green hire is critical. If Green can't get Zion to work harder on defense and get in better shape, then our title chances with Zion will disappear, even if Zion stays. Green's reputation for connecting with players is going to be tested.
First of all, I don't really care how close of a "relationship" Zion has with Griffin. Seriously, y'all are acting as though this is some daytime soap opera. Zion doesn't have to be impressed with Griffin's piano abilities. Zion doesn't even need to like Griff.
Let's get real -- how many other stories are there about how close other stars are with their GMs? Like, who cares? Zion isn't going to make his decision about whether or not to stay in New Orleans based on his personal relationship with Griff. He's going to make that decision based on whether or not he thinks that he can win a title here.
And that's why "just win" is really the only answer. We already knew that Zion was unhappy with the franchise, and we've seen it confirmed before that Zion doesn't hate Griff or anyone else in the front office, but that he just wants to win. If the team doesn't win a lot more games this season, then Zion is going to want out.
It is disappointing that Zion is still immature in some ways and isn't working out and watching his diet at the level a true professional should. As SVG put it, Zion hasn't been in "point guard" shape.
It's also disappointing that he isn't showing up to the workouts, but we don't know why that is. Is he out partying? Lazy? Angry at the organization? Too busy with sponsor stuff?
whatiknowsofar, I do think that the Green hire is critical. If Green can't get Zion to work harder on defense and get in better shape, then our title chances with Zion will disappear, even if Zion stays. Green's reputation for connecting with players is going to be tested.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:00 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Instead of firing Griffin, they let him pick a 3rd coach in 3 years.
He didn’t pick Gentry. Think Gayle forced that on him and he went along with it for the first year. He definitely totally whiffed on the Ron Jeremy hire, and has had a negative loss on majority of the trades he’s made which you can’t do in a small market.
And if we don’t make the playoffs this year, it’s time for him to go
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:01 pm to GOP_Tiger
If Willie gets Zion and BI to play def half as hard as the summer league team, then we're good.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:36 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
d watching his diet at the level a true professional should.
Shocking putting his mommy in charge of this didn’t fix the issue
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:21 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
First of all, I don't really care how close of a "relationship" Zion has with Griffin. Seriously, y'all are acting as though this is some daytime soap opera. Zion doesn't have to be impressed with Griffin's piano abilities. Zion doesn't even need to like Griff.
quote:
One of the slides was titled “Cultural Shift.” It included nine bullet points. The first one read, “Family." The second one read, “Accountability.” The third: “Love.”
OH great, Griff whiffed on 2 of his top 3…
DRIVEMAN OUT
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:23 pm to Pelefraan 1
quote:I thought Griff was a basketball Guru but now I’m thinking we might need a new GM
Griffin asked to meet with Williamson and played the piano for him.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:25 pm to death valley driver
quote:
OH great, Griff whiffed on 2 of his top 3…
DRIVEMAN OUT
Fudge It’s time to move on from Griff
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:41 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
I really can’t help but think this ends super ugly.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:50 pm to CP3forMVP
It’s probably not going to be pretty
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:39 pm to Townedrunkard
quote:
He didn’t pick Gentry. Think Gayle forced that on him and he went along with it for the first year
I never said he picked gentry
I said ownership allowed him to pick a 3rd coach in 3yeare
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:55 pm to Lester Earl
There's really no point in following the NBA anymore unless you're a fan of a big market team.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:29 pm to hendersonshands
This shite is lame and if this stuff is true Zion has a lot of growing up to do.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:50 pm to tgr4ever
We've had Chris Paul, Anthony Davis and Zion since 2006 and we've made the playoffs 5 times in that span, only won two of those series.
That's beyond the usual issues that come with a small market franchise, that is just pure incompetency. It also looks so fricking bad that players we've traded away in the last two years ended up being key pieces on championship teams in the year we traded them.
I get part of being a fan is sticking through the good times, the bad times, always hoping for the best and all that bullshite. But what about this franchise gives you any hope going forward?
And it's not like it's as a simple as changes at the top, it's fricking systemic. Since 2006, we've gone through five different head coaches, three different general managers and two different ownerships... and regardless of who is in charge, every perceived step forward, we take like five steps backward.
That's beyond the usual issues that come with a small market franchise, that is just pure incompetency. It also looks so fricking bad that players we've traded away in the last two years ended up being key pieces on championship teams in the year we traded them.
I get part of being a fan is sticking through the good times, the bad times, always hoping for the best and all that bullshite. But what about this franchise gives you any hope going forward?
And it's not like it's as a simple as changes at the top, it's fricking systemic. Since 2006, we've gone through five different head coaches, three different general managers and two different ownerships... and regardless of who is in charge, every perceived step forward, we take like five steps backward.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 11:00 pm to Broski
It’s starts at the top.
You rarely find good teams with poor ownership.
And for all they have done for football, the Benson’s have so far not shown themselves to be all that much better than Shinn when it comes to managing an NBA franchise. They’ll spend more to a point, but they kept Demps far too long and fired the wrong person in the Monty/Demps power struggle, hired the wrong replacement and are now letting him sabotage their second generational talent they were gifted. Things are trending near the sewer in the Zion era and I’m not sure I’m clear Gayle has an idea of a way out?
Honestly I’m not sure what this franchise should do if the Zion stuff is real and seemingly near irrecoverable? Or Zion really is this immature? It’s probably still sacrilege, but if true, and this season doesn’t change his attitude completely, I’d honestly say trade him. Trade him for the biggest haul in history and hopefully third times the charm for the Benson’s.
I hope it doesn’t come to that, but if this season is either a catastrophe or worse, we make the play in and Zion is still acting like a child, it’s time to recognize reality and move on. Clean house, hope to god Gayle has learned enough lessons and they do it correctly for once
You rarely find good teams with poor ownership.
And for all they have done for football, the Benson’s have so far not shown themselves to be all that much better than Shinn when it comes to managing an NBA franchise. They’ll spend more to a point, but they kept Demps far too long and fired the wrong person in the Monty/Demps power struggle, hired the wrong replacement and are now letting him sabotage their second generational talent they were gifted. Things are trending near the sewer in the Zion era and I’m not sure I’m clear Gayle has an idea of a way out?
Honestly I’m not sure what this franchise should do if the Zion stuff is real and seemingly near irrecoverable? Or Zion really is this immature? It’s probably still sacrilege, but if true, and this season doesn’t change his attitude completely, I’d honestly say trade him. Trade him for the biggest haul in history and hopefully third times the charm for the Benson’s.
I hope it doesn’t come to that, but if this season is either a catastrophe or worse, we make the play in and Zion is still acting like a child, it’s time to recognize reality and move on. Clean house, hope to god Gayle has learned enough lessons and they do it correctly for once
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:11 am to eyeran
Jesus just start him and play him 30mpg regardless of conditioning or “injuries”. Whatever happens happens. We’re tired of taking it slow.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 6:40 am to shel311
quote:and be able to hit shots at the end of games. He’s terrible in the last two minutes of tight games
I'm really not buying the BI words so hard narrative until I see him put fort any kind of effort on defense.
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:28 am to BowDownToLSU
I fricking hate Griff and wish they would have canned him with Ron Jeremey, but Zion can eat a dick in his part of all this. He is a generational talent who cares so little about his team. Like others have said, he is still chasing the AAU experience, which is just fricking weird. When he shows up fat as frick, I will be on the trade him bandwagon. No use playing him till he gets even fatter and fricks up his knee.
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