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re: Windhorst: Vaughn "Gaining Traction"

Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:42 am to
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
7557 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:42 am to
quote:

maybe they are hoping Vaughn can do what Monty did.


The only season in which Monty didn't improve was the season we traded Chris Paul for Eric Gordon
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28570 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:47 am to
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The only season in which Monty didn't improve was the season we traded Chris Paul for Eric Gordon



yep. Monty showed improvement.
Vaughn did not, and i don't want to hear their roster was terrible. It definitely wasn't playoff caliber, but it was better than he was doing. They had young talent and weren't improving. You can expect a young team to not be that good, but you need to see them get better the next year, and if they aren't, there's a problem somewhere.
We have that problem.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19940 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:56 am to
But six years is a long time. How many of you are the same person you were six years ago?

I am not advocating for Vaughn, but I am not at all convinced that he's a bad hire.
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
2121 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:00 am to
I would much rather Lee but I’m still good with Vaughn. I trust Trajan’s opinion a lot better than Griff or even myself lol.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
16532 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:07 am to
Nothing new said in there. We all know he's interviewed, it's in the coaching thread
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11761 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:30 am to
I'm ready for that fat windbag to be gone.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123599 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:44 am to
Sigh.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
10060 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:48 am to
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It makes me wonder if Langdon is rising in the organization as Griff falls a bit. If this year goes sideways and Griff gets fired, I don't think they necessarily clean house and can see Zion being comfortable with Langdon going forward.



If they don’t win this year, Griff will get the axe to appease Zion. Trajan and Swinn will be promoted.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19940 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 10:50 am to
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I trust Trajan’s opinion a lot better than Griff or even myself lol.




How about Trajan's opinion on Nico Melli? Our great expert on European players picked out a guy who flopped and cost us Christian Wood.

I don't say this to bash Trajan, but rather to say that everyone makes mistakes. Everyone wants the perfect person who hasn't made any mistakes, but that guy doesn't exist, so gimme the person who is honest about his mistakes and what he has learned from them.

That's true of both GMs and coaches.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 10:52 am
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:00 am to
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I still can't get over the fact that Griff chose Anthony Bennet...EEWWWWW


From I hear that was mostly Gilbert
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:02 am to
Not true
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28570 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:04 am to
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From I hear that was mostly Gilbert



wrong.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22119 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:15 am to
The typicals in Pelicans twitter are already arse-licking and they haven't even hired the guy yet. I'd have to be on salary to carry water like this:
quote:


Any person using W/L to judge coaches can go ahead an unfollow me.
"If wins and losses matter you GTFOH!!!

What Griffin is in the middle of doing to this franchise is disastrous.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101660 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:17 am to
Isn’t Christian Wood on his 6th team now?

It IS possible for a shitty attitude to outweigh your on court contributions.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19940 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:43 am to
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If wins and losses matter you GTFOH!!!

What Griffin is in the middle of doing to this franchise is disastrous.



Well, SVG had a W/L record well over.500 when we hired him. If you reduce everything to that one metric, without looking at the players on those teams or other factors, you end up making bad decisions, which is Shamit's point.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
19940 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:44 am to
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Isn’t Christian Wood on his 6th team now?

It IS possible for a shitty attitude to outweigh your on court contributions.


Wait, are you seriously defending Trajan's bringing Melli over at the expense of Wood?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101660 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 11:50 am to
I don’t defend Melli.

I point out that Wood has gone from place to place a LOT considering his production, which tends to be a sign that someone is a locker room cancer.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3036 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:57 pm to
Woods was never going to be here. He wanted playing time. He wasnt going to start over Derrick Favors. But who knew Favors would have underperformed that bad. Melli was an amazing shooter in Euro, he just lost all his confidence when he went to the NBA.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:00 pm to
Whether it's Lee, Chauncey, or Vaughn, I think we can all agree at least we didn't hire frickin Jason Kidd. LOL Mavs
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
54115 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:01 pm to
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It IS possible for a shitty attitude to outweigh your on court contributions
on Russillo’s podcast he talked with KOC about Woods and it seemed to be implying that he’s heard from people that Wood is a shitty locker room guy. shite attitude when he doesn’t get the ball often. Shaking his head on the bench to make sure his teammates know his frustrated
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