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re: The ususal clowns went in on Zion

Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:42 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:42 am to
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I'm so fricking sick of people making amateur claims of how someone should be losing weight. Zion is no longer out of shape. He just recovered from a broken foot and worked out at Nike for months. He will continue to work out. He does not need to drop 30-40 more pounds.


I agree he's not nearly as fat as they're acting, but he's not Duke Zion in terms of body and explosiveness.
Posted by dirtytigers
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Member since Dec 2014
2487 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:43 am to
That Suit isn’t even Tailored well if even tailored. Sorry Zion is comfortable in his skin and not a self conscious fatso like you
Posted by AlabamasSalaryCap
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
2958 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:43 am to
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quote:
I'm so fricking sick of people making amateur claims of how someone should be losing weight


He just posted a video of Sharpe saying it. You didn't watch it? Don't care? Sharpe knows body types and training. He is a professional fitness model and trains with athletes in multiple sports including basketball. Both he and Skip know trainers on multiple teams and people that have met and worked with the Pelicans and Zion. They have knowledge. Where are you getting yours?


Hush, what does Shannon Sharpe know about fitness??

Clearly we should be listening to whatiknowsofar, as he is the superior authority on the topic.

Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
2619 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:43 am to
Just as a goof, he should be wearing the shoe that ended his career... the one his whole leg went through.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27581 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:45 am to
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He just posted a video of Sharpe saying it. You didn't watch it? Don't care? Sharpe knows body types and training


I'm glad you said that. If Shannon is correct that he's over 300 in that shot and Shannon also said he needs to lose 25 lbs that puts him at 275ish. So your claim that he needs to be at 235 is wrong too.

Or are you disagreeing with a professional opinion?
Posted by AlabamasSalaryCap
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
2958 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:45 am to
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That Suit isn’t even Tailored well if even tailored. Sorry Zion is comfortable in his skin and not a self conscious fatso like you



Well for one, you don't have an eye for these things because it clearly is.

Also, the players straight up told us that Garrett Temple had them all measured and bought the suits for them just for the game.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79433 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:49 am to
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Sharpe is a borderline expert on fitness and body composition.


What?
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15973 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:50 am to
I’m guessing this thread was dumped here?
Posted by England_Pelican
England
Member since Apr 2018
3969 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:51 am to
I stopped listening when they said he walked with a limp when he landed … that’s how he has always walked.

They are so basic in their knowledge…. They just peddle crap, push their wanky narrative and don’t really know their subject matter
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130287 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:51 am to
Idiot. We actually see Zion regularly. This is likely the lightest he’s been in a New Orleans uniform.

So shut the frick up. Beat it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476874 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:52 am to
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They just peddle crap, push their wanky narrative and don’t really know their subject matter

Yeah they literally just create talking points to troll fans to get responses on social media and forums.

Anyone who takes the side of either as making a point is a victim of lack of intelligence.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130287 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:53 am to
Shannon Sharpe

Possibly the dumbest person in all sports media. Gtfo
Posted by NorthShoreTiger44
Madisonville
Member since Aug 2014
1480 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:53 am to
This dude is clearly here to troll and everyone is playing straight in to his hands
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11381 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:54 am to
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Or are you disagreeing with a professional opinion


That is a tremendous gotcha question. I believe he is saying for him to be in playable shape. Zion has played around 280 before, so that's what he needs to get to that.

I believe that an optimal in shape Zion would be closer to 235. Yes. I'm not back down from that. It would take time to get to that. But I'd expect or hope he could come into next season closer to 250. If he can carry that well and keep his wind, then I'd be fine with him around that weight.

What I want in all basketball players is peak condition. They should be cut, vascular and able to run, jump all game. Fluid athletes. I have never see Zion close to that. He is a gifted athlete. But he is abusing that gift. I don't understand why this is controversial at all..
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130287 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:57 am to
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believe that an optimal in shape Zion would be closer to 235.


Can we all agree to just stop feeding this troll?

Let’s just ignore him from now on please.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37061 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:57 am to
He gets paid to spout bullshite that draw eyes to it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63061 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 8:59 am to
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They are actually extremely wrong. If you just watch the video of him in a suit and not in what seems like 2 layers of sweats youll see he lost a ton of weight.



I think he lost weight...and he's put some/much back.

He's fat. It may not be laziness. It may be just who he is. But, he's fat. And, he won't hold up as a result.

Honestly, I feel worse about Zion than I did 6 months ago. There is no solving this.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179011 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:00 am to
He’s gonna be a thick dude his whole career. Best case is slimmer thick.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476874 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:02 am to
What's the ideal weight? 255-265?

That's what he was at for Duke right?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63061 posts
Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:05 am to
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He’s gonna be a thick dude his whole career. Best case is slimmer thick.



I think this is correct.

The goalposts need to be moved on Zion.
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