re: The Pros and Cons of Hiring Ainge's Right Hand Man

Tatum and Horford and a 1st for AD and Hill would work, wouldn't it?

Tank, draft a PG and resign Randle. Is that reasonable?

Here is the biggest pro for me:

He has been around a top flight organization that is more in line with how I suspect we want to be modeled after than say LA. He knows the culture of a winning organization and has had his hands in every aspect of that organization.

That was the biggest draw with Dell too, but I don’t see Ms. Gayle giving a win now mandate. I think she wants to do this right.

Con: like you said, he may value assets differently than a more objective, farther removed set of eyes.

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I’ve heard Tatum, Smart, S&T Rozier, 3 picks.

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Can't see Rozier being part of it in a S&T as that complicates the trade too much. What incentive does Rozier have to agree to a S&T before the draft (as any 2019 picks would have to be made by Boston for the Pelicans so a trade would have to be agreed upon). I am hoping it is that trade, but Brown instead of Rozier.

I think it’s going to be Zarren and he brings Larranga with him.

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think my biggest worry would be that Zarran would overvalue the Boston assets.

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Relative to what? I though the entire premise of your thread was assume we are making a Boston trade. If that is the assumption, then does it matter if he overvalues the Boston assets given the logistical constraints? Everyone agrees Tatum and picks are involved, so choosing between Brown and Smart and how many picks is essentially the filler.

Are you concerned that he miight sacrifice extra picks to get the players he knows? Does it matter in the long run if you assume the minimum of the trade is Tatum, picks, and either Smart or Brown.

Now if we are talking about valuing a Boston deal versus a Knicks deal, then he is definitey going to have a bias to the Celtics assets. That is a real concern, but one you accept to get a candidate of his caliber.

Here’s another con I thought of, race. You’re going to go from a black GM and black head coach to a white GM and the odds are a white coach simply because there are more of them in the candidate pool. I don’t think it’s a big deal long term but if you announce this in the wrong dead news period it could become a thing. Keeping Gentry on as a consultant makes even more sense in that context.

Also as far as both candidates go,I don’t know both of them well enough to make a honest opinion. I just wanna listen and let you guys inform me.

That's a little bit out there. Once the Davis stuff cools down, everyone will go back to not caring about the Pels on a national level. The articles that might be written might be questions about where is the black Zarren?

The goal is best hire. Everyone knows the Pels have sucked. It wasn't because of a black gm or coach. The worst thing would be to pick a guy, be it Dumars or Zarren, for reasons other than he is the best candidate interested in the job

To me, the cons would be similar to what others have said- he values the Boston guys in the Boston system too much. Celtics usually win trades because they are phenomenal at finding talent that fits what they do and can be maximized in Boston. He ain't gonna have Stevens and that support/culture in New Orleans

Another pro is that Zarren has the benefit of the Boston machine for scouting this year's draft. Obviously Zion is #1, maybe the Celtics are really high on other guys in slots 2-5 (like they were with Tatum). That knowledge opens up more opportunities and also gives him more leverage with Boston if they are reluctant to give what the Pels want

When you have nothing but high minded conversations in real life, you get addicted to that and it hurts your brain to have simpleton conversation. Yes, historically, message boards are a breeding ground for simple people such as yourself, but that doesn't mean those of us who have been out of the cave have to return here and play by the old rules

NBA aint the NFL. You're already jumping to conclusions about a hire that hasn't happened and hypothetical outrage that may happen.

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Rooney Rule to this situation if I were the Pels.

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they should hire the best candidates. they should conduct a wide search for those guys in the FO and then with the guys to be head coach. if it's just Zarren/Griffin, that's a shitty search, even if i think those are the two best names out there i can think of. i'm not getting paid to consult Gayle. i'm just some rando on a message board. they should be able to do better

you also are assuming they won't hire a black head coach. Stackhouse, Collins, hell they may hire Becky Hammon. and, honestly, if it is a white guy, the assumption has to be that players, mostly black, like being around that coach.

and, again, no one cares about the Pels nationally. they can time this up so it is announced during the playoffs and people will move on. this is a slow cycle and the Davis saga has literally turned the league upside down.

of all the things to be outraged about in the world right now, middling pro sports team hiring a white executive is pretty far down the list