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re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:04 am to Epic Cajun
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:04 am to Epic Cajun
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I just don't think he has the size or rebounding to play the 5 for extended periods of time.
That's how I see him. It would be hard to get JSJ, Herb, Zion, and Trey on the court (although it would make the Raptors cream their pants to watch) for extended periods.
It would certainly be an interesting lineup and an extreme version of "Zion and shooters"
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:43 am to whatiknowsofar
Proposal from Bleacher Report today:
Pelicans get: Dejounte Murray, Bogdanovic
Hawks get: Ingram, Dyson Daniels, 2025 1st round pick (most favorable of Lakers and Pels picks)
I like the trade but would prefer not to give up the rights to Lakers pick. If Lebron goes elsewhere that will be a top 10 pick.
Pelicans get: Dejounte Murray, Bogdanovic
Hawks get: Ingram, Dyson Daniels, 2025 1st round pick (most favorable of Lakers and Pels picks)
I like the trade but would prefer not to give up the rights to Lakers pick. If Lebron goes elsewhere that will be a top 10 pick.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:46 am to StrongOffer
I could definitely get behind that, but I don't rate DD like some on here.
That would let us figure out what to do with CJ
Murray
Herb
Trey
Zion
5 (Defensive?)
Is a very solid starting 5, and CJ, Hawkins, Bodgonavic would be pretty explosive on offense off the bench. We'd have a lot of offensive versatility (with a coach who doesn't want to use them that way)
That would let us figure out what to do with CJ
Murray
Herb
Trey
Zion
5 (Defensive?)
Is a very solid starting 5, and CJ, Hawkins, Bodgonavic would be pretty explosive on offense off the bench. We'd have a lot of offensive versatility (with a coach who doesn't want to use them that way)
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
Agreed. Dyson is very expendable for me. He could end up being a "can't believe we gave him up" but it's worth the risk for me to get a solid starting point guard.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:00 am to StrongOffer
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Agreed. Dyson is very expendable for me. He could end up being a "can't believe we gave him up" but it's worth the risk for me to get a solid starting point guard.
I'm as pro Dyson as anyone on this board, but it's just a fact of life in the NBA that if you don't look like a potential All Star early, you're going to be on a different team by the middle of your 2nd contract or earlier. We absolutely should be considering him as a trade piece. Hawkins needs to show out this year and basically make us be ok with moving on from CJ or he goes in the same category.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:07 am to TigerinATL
quote:Certainly some truth to that, but he is just turned 21 years old, so they may have a little more patience with him. I do not see him as untouchable though. I would not give up the pick though.
I'm as pro Dyson as anyone on this board, but it's just a fact of life in the NBA that if you don't look like a potential All Star early, you're going to be on a different team by the middle of your 2nd contract or earlier. We absolutely should be considering him as a trade piece. Hawkins needs to show out this year and basically make us be ok with moving on from CJ or he goes in the same category.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 10:09 am
Posted on 6/6/24 at 10:18 am to StrongOffer
I don't mind that trade if we move off of CJ as well. I'd put some protections on the pick though. I"m not giving them a top 10 pick if the Lakers crash this year. It can be most favorable top 10 protected.
Bogdnavich is getting older, but he can still score, and yes i know this is ATL Bogdanvich. He's 31
He'd be ok comign off the bench and giving us what CJ does, while Trey gets to start.
To me you either do the trade but not include Bogdanivich and keep CJ, or you include Bogdonavich and move CJ to a 3rd team. There's no reason to have both Bogdonavich and CJ on the team together, when we need to start Trey and they are both in the way.
Bogdnavich is getting older, but he can still score, and yes i know this is ATL Bogdanvich. He's 31
He'd be ok comign off the bench and giving us what CJ does, while Trey gets to start.
To me you either do the trade but not include Bogdanivich and keep CJ, or you include Bogdonavich and move CJ to a 3rd team. There's no reason to have both Bogdonavich and CJ on the team together, when we need to start Trey and they are both in the way.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:27 am to TeddyPadillac
Agreed. I’d hate to lose CJ’s shooting and locker room leadership, but I think you’d have to in order to get a Center.
I do think this would make it harder to get Allen. I know people have been throwing out Nance + picks for Allen, but I don’t see the Cavs wanting picks as a return. I think they’d prioritize playable wings over a picks.
However, if we could maybe move CJ to ORL for Carter + a small piece, then we would have the cap space to work a sign-and-trade with the Nets for Claxton.
Turning BI, Dyson, CJ, Nance, and a few picks into Murray, Bogdanovic, Claxton, and Carter would be a realistically plausible scenario for me. That team feels like it would fit together much better and helps balance out the roster. Doing a rough cap estimate, I believe this would also give enough room to re-sign Trey too.
I do think this would make it harder to get Allen. I know people have been throwing out Nance + picks for Allen, but I don’t see the Cavs wanting picks as a return. I think they’d prioritize playable wings over a picks.
However, if we could maybe move CJ to ORL for Carter + a small piece, then we would have the cap space to work a sign-and-trade with the Nets for Claxton.
Turning BI, Dyson, CJ, Nance, and a few picks into Murray, Bogdanovic, Claxton, and Carter would be a realistically plausible scenario for me. That team feels like it would fit together much better and helps balance out the roster. Doing a rough cap estimate, I believe this would also give enough room to re-sign Trey too.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:10 pm to StrongOffer
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Pelicans get: Dejounte Murray, Bogdanovic
Hawks get: Ingram, Dyson Daniels, 2025 1st round pick (most favorable of Lakers and Pels picks)
Lol yeah frick that shite
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:12 pm to StrongOffer
If Murray and Ingram have close to equal value then:
Dyson + better 25' 1st = Bogdonavic ??
That sounds terrible
Dyson + better 25' 1st = Bogdonavic ??
That sounds terrible
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:15 pm to Dantheman504
I'd rather keep Dyson in that scenario even if we "have" to give up a pick.
I'd also rather take AJ Griffin in either scenario and use CJ to get the next guy.
I'd also rather take AJ Griffin in either scenario and use CJ to get the next guy.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:33 pm to TigerinATL
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hey cannot have a draft pick in a weak draft be the primary compensation for Ingram, even if it were the #1 pick. That's just a hard sell to the players and the fans that you will be better this season after trading someone they all respect and value a lot in BI for an unknown. You have to at least get a Murray/Garland level player back, and I don't see how you get that and keep a top 5 pick.
I think you are underestimating Griff's salesman skills. With his media contacts, it would be easy to craft a narrative the fan base would buy. Naji/Jose might get pissy, but frick em. However, any trade with Atlanta would need matching salary without a 3rd team, so at worst I think it would be something like Hunter + OO or Bogdan (Hawks choice) + #1 for Ingram + Dyson + 21.
Pels could draft Sarr and still use picks to go get a #2 either this offseason or using CJ's salary next offseason.
Zion-CJ-Herb-Trey-Sarr with Bogi-Hawk-Hunter on the bench and an MLE big or guard gives them a lot of shooting and defensive versatility around Zion.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:35 pm to Dantheman504
quote:
Cam Whitmore
Teri Eason
Amen Thompson
Jock Landale
Pels: Green + Whitmore + Eason + Landale
Hou: BI
I'd be happy with that
Not sure why you are getting downvoted. The Rockets are loaded with young talent. They will actually need to trade some guys because they cannot afford everyone's second contract especially if they are forced to max Sengun.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:40 pm to NOFOX
A BI trade to HOU centered around Jalen Gree, gross.
If Sengun isn't coming back, there's no BI to HOU deal I like.
If Sengun isn't coming back, there's no BI to HOU deal I like.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:43 pm to shel311
This thread is going to look hilarious when we extend BI
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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This thread is going to look hilarious when we extend BI
Personally if that happens the pelicans front office will be more of a joke.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:52 pm to shel311
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A BI trade to HOU centered around Jalen Gree, gross.
If Sengun isn't coming back, there's no BI to HOU deal I like.
Green-Whitmore-Eason is a pretty solid return for BI. I get people don't like Jalen, but people don't like BI either.
Jalen is erratic and still has a lot of bad habits, but he has crazy natural talent and we are not getting a younger, cheaper, better player in return for BI. Jalen is a swing for the fences type move hopig he can build upon his very good March run when Sengun was out and he looked unstoppable.
Eason and Whitmore are also great cost-controlled contributors.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:10 pm to Dantheman504
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If Murray and Ingram have close to equal value then: Dyson + better 25' 1st = Bogdonavic ?? That sounds terrible
Yea frick that trade. Seems like we giving up way to much. I’d rather keep DD and they keep Bog and give them the lesser of the two firsts.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:15 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Personally if that happens the pelicans front office will be more of a joke.
That’s quite the absurd comment
Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:16 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Personally if that happens the pelicans front office will be more of a joke.
Knowing Griff, wouldn’t suprise me.
What about framework deal for CJ/Trey for Trae if it happens? Will probably have to add salary.
Trae, Herb, BI Zion and find a center or cheap centers by committee. Bi as a third option might kill it. At least the roster would fit better.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 1:19 pm
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