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re: The Official NBA Free Agency/Offseason Thread Update: MITCHELL TO CLE
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:26 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:26 pm to GOP_Tiger
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OKC is definitely done tanking. They already have tons of young prospects to develop, and they still have tons of future picks, including 13 first-round picks in the next five years. They don't need to tank for more high picks, because they can trade up if they want to -- and that's if some of the picks they have from other teams don't end up high. Because, right now, owning the Rockets and Jazz picks in 2024 looks really good.
I think OKC improves but is still a lottery team. They are very young.
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:28 pm to brmark70816
I still don’t understand your point
those other teams are not going to be trying to lose (UTA excepted). SAS is going to be trying to lose
it’s ok to like their team and to understand what they are doing at the same time. SAS is not going to be happy if they finish out of the top 4
those other teams are not going to be trying to lose (UTA excepted). SAS is going to be trying to lose
it’s ok to like their team and to understand what they are doing at the same time. SAS is not going to be happy if they finish out of the top 4
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:30 pm to cgrand
Considering the other teams and what they have to work with, the Spurs ending up in the top 4 of ping pong balls is extremely doable.
The issue for them will be if either the draft class sucks and/or the lottery gods frick them and they pick 5th or later.
The issue for them will be if either the draft class sucks and/or the lottery gods frick them and they pick 5th or later.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 1:31 pm to teke184
that’s why them “surprising” with a decent record like brmark expects would be a disaster for them
Posted on 7/20/22 at 2:47 pm to Bronc
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Name me the teams outside of Miami, Memphis, and Toronto that have had superior drafts from 2016 to 2021 when picking from the mid teens to late 20's? Just give me a list, name those teams.
I think people would admit that the Spurs are a good franchise. I just don’t agree with the comment that they will be in the top tier of teams in 3 years. It takes rookies a few years to settle. And they don’t have a very high ceiling core due to picking in the teens for so long. So if they get a top 5 player this year you have to hope they become an all-star in 2 years to meet the 3 year deadline that bmark said. That’s really wishful thinking. The Spurs are going to rebuild and it might take 5ish years because they don’t have assets beyond their own picks.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:03 pm to Bronc
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Char still has Lamelo and Rozier which is better than anything on the Spurs
Do they even have a coach? They fired Ray Romano and got spurned by Atkinson.
I think they'll suck hard.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:08 pm to ghost2most
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Do they even have a coach? They fired Ray Romano and got spurned by Atkinson.
I think they'll suck hard.
The Bridges thing is a killer.
I kind of still think that Westbrook ends up going to the Hornets. Hornets can get rid of Rozier and Hayward, clear a ton of cap space.
The Spurs have the Hornets pick for next summer. It is top 6 protected. So the Hornets really have an incentive to tank hard and get into the top 5.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:15 pm to ghost2most
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Do they even have a coach? They fired Ray Romano and got spurned by Atkinson.
They rehired Steve Clifford
Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:23 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:he isn’t close to being worth that LOL
Report: Danny Ainge and the Utah Jazz are seeking seven to eight first round picks for Donovan Mitchell, per @TheSteinLine
Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:25 pm to cgrand
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Miles Bridges pleads not guilty to domestic violence charges; next court appointment is scheduled for Aug. 19:
felony domestic violence charges...
CHA is fricked. If he pleas down in any way he will be suspended. If he’s found guilty he’s going to jail
Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:42 pm to higgsBoson
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The Spurs are going to rebuild and it might take 5ish years because they don’t have assets beyond their own picks.
The Spurs have all of their picks plus they just got a bunch from the Hawks. They have some others as well. When they dump their vets they will gain even more assets. Plus they will have 50-60M in cap space to absorb bad contracts for even more picks.
I get that I am way higher on the Spurs youth than most. But I view both Johnson and Vassell as having top 15ish positional value. I believe they could both be 3rd or 4th options on a great team. I'm not as big on Sochan but many believe he will be an elite defender. If one of Branham, Primo or Wesley emerge that is a great core. Add one all star level player and they vault to a contending team. I believe they can do that with two shots in the early lottery. That is the way a small market team is supposed to be built..
Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:07 pm to cgrand
He isn’t getting it, he is just setting a high asking price to drive up what he finally gets.
Similar to Morey and Ben Simmons. Harden wasn’t necessarily the best return he could have gotten but Harden was better than the bullshite deals everyone was screaming he should take.
Similar to Morey and Ben Simmons. Harden wasn’t necessarily the best return he could have gotten but Harden was better than the bullshite deals everyone was screaming he should take.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:14 pm to cgrand
quote:If true, he is not planning on trading him. Mitchell worth maybe half of that.
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Report: Danny Ainge and the Utah Jazz are seeking seven to eight first round picks for Donovan Mitchell, per @TheSteinLine
he isn’t close to being worth that LOL
Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:27 pm to NOSHAU
I can’t stand the way these trades are discussed nationally. As if every first or every young player has the same value. The Knicks have four firsts that are very very heavily protected. And none of their young guys are major needle movers. Unprotected Knicks picks? Totally different conversation.
Suns first, Heat first? Meh.
Don’t misunderstand me. 7 or 8 firsts for one player is still an over ask and simply where Danny is starting. But Obi and Quickly counting as firsts, and the four non Knicks picks would be a steal for Mitchell. If that is “6 firsts”, you can see where the devil is in the details.
Suns first, Heat first? Meh.
Don’t misunderstand me. 7 or 8 firsts for one player is still an over ask and simply where Danny is starting. But Obi and Quickly counting as firsts, and the four non Knicks picks would be a steal for Mitchell. If that is “6 firsts”, you can see where the devil is in the details.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:36 pm to NOSHAU
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If true,
Mark Stein is refuting the report that was attributed to him by an aggregator:
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Marc Stein @TheSteinLine · 3h
Nope. Nothing from us to date that the Jazz want eight.
@Tjonesonthenba and I discussed his reporting about Utah wanting six firsts and I added that “one source” told me it was seven. Neither of us suggested that the Jazz asked for eight, which is the maximum New York can trade.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 7:35 pm to TigerinATL
So basically he’s saying they want 7
Jesus this shite is getting absurd…but the Knicks are the type of team to do it, so I guess shoot your shot Ainge.
Jesus this shite is getting absurd…but the Knicks are the type of team to do it, so I guess shoot your shot Ainge.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:03 pm to Bronc
Ainge just got 5 firsts for Gobert so I cant really blame him for shooting for 6 or 7 picks. Just needs to find one desperate GM to make it happen.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:06 pm to WB504
I don’t think the GM will be the desperate one.
Dolan is impatient on rebuilds and hires yes men who do shite like this no matter how dumb an idea it is.
Dolan is impatient on rebuilds and hires yes men who do shite like this no matter how dumb an idea it is.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:10 pm to Bronc
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Jesus this shite is getting absurd…but the Knicks are the type of team to do it, so I guess shoot your shot Ainge.
It’s essentially only 5 picks for the Knicks because they traded one pick for three in the last draft. Obviously still a shitload, but that’s what Minnesota traded for Gobert.
Probably not a popular take, but IMO Gobert affects winning more than Mitchell.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:16 pm to Epic Cajun
don’t know what they think their ceiling is with 2 6’ guards but if they win even one series it would be a great year considering the talent level. Would be a terrible trade to give up that much.
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