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re: The Official NBA Free Agency/Offseason Thread Update: MITCHELL TO CLE

Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:06 pm to
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Not sure if games played reduces pay, or just reduces guaranteed money in the event that he is waived (obviously very unlikely).


The way the Embiid deal was structured the guaranteed money went up each year. So the earlier you cut him the less guaranteed money you owed.

It was a 5/$147 contract with these conditions:

* If misses 25+ games or plays fewer than 1,650 minutes due to injury (back, feet) PHI has right to waive and reduce g'teed amount:
* $84.2 million if waived after 2018-19
* $98.2 million if waived after 2019-20
* $113.3 million if waived after 2020-21
* $129.4 million if waived after 2021-22

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The money saved really doesn't help you replace Zion as much as it helps you not have a tax team if you lost your Super Star to a career ending injury.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:09 pm to
Thanks for the full details on that one, forgot that Embiid also had a games played criteria, I just thought it was if he gets a similar injury they can cut him. I knew about how it was structured otherwise, essentially if he’s cut for the same injury he gets something like 80% of his remaining salary each year that he has left.
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1734 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:10 pm to
Because I love throwing out hypotheticals to you psychopaths, what about Herro? I would like to think that Utah would want him in a deal, but he’s one year away from RFA, and stranger things have happened (aka Jarrett Allen and Lavert not being kept by Houston).

Would you throw in pick compensation for Herro knowing he’s getting paid soon? And if so, how much?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37083 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:13 pm to
I really don’t see the Pels adding long term salary outside of possibly getting a rim protector (for around what we’re paying Graham). It really doesn’t make sense otherwise, we’d have too much long term salary on the books. You can’t pay CJ 35, BI 33, Zion 33, Herro 25+.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37083 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:14 pm to
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Give me Duncan Robinson


No thanks
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8787 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:16 pm to
I just don’t see how we can pay him long term. He’s going to get $15 million or more AAV. In the next couple years we’ll be talking extensions for Herb and Trey with Zion/BI/CJ (assuming he’s extended soon) at large dollar amounts.

If we wanted to rent him for a season with the intention to sign and trade him next offseason, I think including Graham and a first is fine.
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1734 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:17 pm to
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I really don’t see the Pels adding long term salary outside of possibly getting a rim protector (for around what we’re paying Graham). It really doesn’t make sense otherwise, we’d have too much long term salary on the books. You can’t pay CJ 35, BI 33, Zion 33, Herro 25+.


I agree. I would love to have him even for one year next season. And maybe get “something” in a future sign and trade. But our firsts are pretty sweet with swaps etc, I just don’t see throwing them away.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28025 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:36 pm to
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aka Jarrett Allen and Lavert not being kept by Houston
That wasn’t strange. They were blowing it up and tanking.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20975 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:47 pm to
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After previously shutting down inquiries on moving All-Star guard Donovan Mitchell, rival teams say the Utah Jazz are showing a willingness to listen on possible trade scenarios, sources tell ESPN.



He a poor defender, so some team is going to overpay Utah for him and see a smaller impact than they expected.
Posted by jprdbulldog20
Member since Feb 2013
20804 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:01 pm to
liddell torn acl
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15077 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

what about Herro? I would like to think that Utah would want him in a deal, but he’s one year away from RFA, and stranger things have happened (aka Jarrett Allen and Lavert not being kept by Houston).


White boy going to Utah, and yiu don’t think they will want him ? Lmao
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130337 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:09 pm to
Supposedly Kyrie wants to stay in Brooklyn now.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 9:14 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130337 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:16 pm to
NYPost

quote:

Kyrie Irving wants to be a Net — with or without Kevin Durant


LINK
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37083 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:20 pm to
Makes me think neither of them will be traded this off-season. I saw some clown Laker reporter state that the Lakers have leverage in the Kyrie situation because they have a backup plan and can trade Westbrook for Myles Turner and Buddy Hield

Can you imagine thinking that the Lakers have the leverage in this situation?
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
2318 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:23 pm to
Kyrie is going to Kyrie!!
Posted by Kerchek
Member since Oct 2021
585 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:34 pm to
What would a Mitchell trade look like for us?

Graham + Hayes + Picks? How many?

I'd imagine the Jazz will want picks over players since this means they're tanking.
Posted by Hailstate15
ForeverGator's mom's
Member since Nov 2018
21466 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

What would a Mitchell trade look like for us?


Nonexistent
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:47 pm to
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Give me Duncan Robinson
Hard pass, way overpaid.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6156 posts
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:48 pm to
He is that’s true but I feel like he’s a hard worker (trains with Jrue’s guy) and would be a good volume shooter off the bench for us where we can recoup his value.
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