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re: The Official NBA Free Agency/Offseason Thread Update: MITCHELL TO CLE
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:44 pm to BallHawk
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:44 pm to BallHawk
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Poeltl would be super interesting
I'd even throw in a pick, maybe. He's also an expiring...
if his contract is expiring why would they trade him?
they can just sit him
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:47 pm to Fun Bunch
WHy on earth would any of you want Poeltl, much less give anything up for him? He's got 1 year left, and can't defend the perimeter at all. great rim protector, but is that really what we need as a backup down low to Zion/JV/Nance? What i see is the need for a 4 that can shoot, insert Trey Murphy.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:48 pm to TeddyPadillac
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WHy on earth would any of you want Poeltl
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He's got 1 year left
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great rim protector
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but is that really what we need as a backup
Yeah, pretty much exactly that situationally.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:49 pm to Fun Bunch
We need someone to protect the rim so that Ayton doesn't look like Wilt Chamberlin against us 
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:57 pm to Epic Cajun
Ayton is going to Detroit or the Knicks
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:57 pm to Fun Bunch
you left out the main part that matters here.
he can't guard the perimeter.
why would we need 4 centers on the team when only 1 of them is even close to being a competent perimeter defender?
Who cares if he protects the rim if the other team is just taking wide arse open 3's the whole time?
If you want to talk about replacing JV with Poeltl, then ok, but i don't want to do that either. Just makes little sense to me too add him to the team as a backup to JV.
We need a big that can shoot. We have the big slow big in JV and the athletic quicker big in Nance to play with Zion, but neither of them can stretch the floor. I'd like that floor stretcher as the 3rd big.
Everything revolves around how they fit with Zion. I don't see the big deference between JV and Poeltl, other than Poeltl's probably a slightly better defender, while JV is better offensively. I'd prefer another skill set in a big.
he can't guard the perimeter.
why would we need 4 centers on the team when only 1 of them is even close to being a competent perimeter defender?
Who cares if he protects the rim if the other team is just taking wide arse open 3's the whole time?
If you want to talk about replacing JV with Poeltl, then ok, but i don't want to do that either. Just makes little sense to me too add him to the team as a backup to JV.
We need a big that can shoot. We have the big slow big in JV and the athletic quicker big in Nance to play with Zion, but neither of them can stretch the floor. I'd like that floor stretcher as the 3rd big.
Everything revolves around how they fit with Zion. I don't see the big deference between JV and Poeltl, other than Poeltl's probably a slightly better defender, while JV is better offensively. I'd prefer another skill set in a big.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:00 pm to TeddyPadillac
One of our two biggest holes is rim protection.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:04 pm to Fun Bunch
While that’s true, I’m still optimistic that a prime in shape Zion is the answer to rim protection.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:05 pm to Fun Bunch
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One of our two biggest holes is rim protection.
and one of the best way to fix that is to play better perimeter defense.
Not having Devonte Graham start 63 games at PG is one way to help with that.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:08 pm to TeddyPadillac
Poeltl is a 9 million dollar expiring.
I'm simply saying if you could get him for bad contracts like DG or Temple or whatever, then you could use him situationally.
He's your starter if JV goes down. If he doesn't, then JV and Nance are your guys that you play in most games, and Poeltl is used situationally against elite offensive bigs or when defense and rim protection are needed.
I'm simply saying if you could get him for bad contracts like DG or Temple or whatever, then you could use him situationally.
He's your starter if JV goes down. If he doesn't, then JV and Nance are your guys that you play in most games, and Poeltl is used situationally against elite offensive bigs or when defense and rim protection are needed.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:10 pm to Fun Bunch
I just read that Kyrie would be giving up 90 million dollars by signing with the lakers for the TPMLE.
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Assuming Kyrie were to opt out and sign a 4 year max this year, thats 4 years ~ $191 mil. If he were to take the TMLE from LAL and then a 3 year deal starting at $30 mil in the first year, thats ~$101 mil over the same timeframe, by my quick, rough math. $90 mil difference
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:11 pm to Fun Bunch
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would be giving up 90 million dollars
but thats vs a 4-year max which nobody is going to give him.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think Detroit should make a play for Bridges.
He went to Michigan State.
Technically they have Stewart and Duren now, so that lessens the need to pay Ayton the max.
Adding Bridges to that core would be great fit wise.
He went to Michigan State.
Technically they have Stewart and Duren now, so that lessens the need to pay Ayton the max.
Adding Bridges to that core would be great fit wise.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
RealGM threads are claiming Vegas odds have Ayton going to the Nets due to recent shifts and a possibility of Durant going to Phoenix.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:31 pm to 3PieceSpicy
i have a bad feeling about this irving/lakers thing
irving's 4 year max is 47MM+/-.
westbrook's 2022 expiring is 47MM
there is no market for irving otherwise. lakers send westbrook & two 1sts, nets sign/trade irving. lakers would be hard-capped at the apron.
would they have enough room under the apron to fill out a roster around lebron, davis, irving, THT & nunn?
irving's 4 year max is 47MM+/-.
westbrook's 2022 expiring is 47MM
there is no market for irving otherwise. lakers send westbrook & two 1sts, nets sign/trade irving. lakers would be hard-capped at the apron.
would they have enough room under the apron to fill out a roster around lebron, davis, irving, THT & nunn?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:34 pm to cgrand
fischer
i dont get this...?
they would not have his bird rights. how will they have "salary cap flexibility"?
unless they already know lebron is not going to re sign
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There is increasingly belief that Kyrie Irving will opt out of his $36.5 million contract with the Brooklyn Nets to sign the $6 million taxpayer midlevel with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report. Irving would hope to re-sign with the Lakers on a long-term deal in 2023 when the team has more salary cap flexibility. The Nets have been unwilling to satisfy Irving's long-term contract request. Brooklyn has also appeared to not be interested in sign-and-trade scenarios involving the Lakers. Irving has until Wednesday afternoon to decide upon his opt-in with the Nets.
i dont get this...?
they would not have his bird rights. how will they have "salary cap flexibility"?
unless they already know lebron is not going to re sign
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:34 pm to cgrand
They’re in the tax now so they have to get no higher than the apron to start with and are then able to fill out their roster only with minimum guys.
That likely means shipping out some combo of THT, Nunn, Reaves, etc, to get low enough they can fill out a roster. Then they have no margin for injury.
That likely means shipping out some combo of THT, Nunn, Reaves, etc, to get low enough they can fill out a roster. Then they have no margin for injury.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:35 pm to Fun Bunch
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I just read that Kyrie would be giving up 90 million dollars by signing with the lakers for the TPMLE.
That’s assuming someone wants to give Irving a max deal right now. To do that, Irving has got to want to play for you and I’m not sure he wants to play anywhere but 2-3 teams.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:35 pm to cgrand
Last time a guy walked away from a big contract and took the taxpayer MLE, he tore his Achilles. Again.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:41 pm to cgrand
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would they have enough room under the apron to fill out a roster around lebron, davis, irving, THT & nunn?
The definition of insanity is trying something over and over again
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