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shel311
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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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Celtics can then just trade AD at the deadline if it doesn't work.

It can also "work" with Boston having a solid season, then flaming out in round 1 or 2 of the playoffs, AD walks, Celtics are left with very little from all those assets they had.
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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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Mannix:


This to me is what makes Ainge's pitch to Kyrie about a trade clause so savvy.

It's risky, but it probably gets him to sign the line if AD is shipped there. I mean what is the risk for Kyrie? He hates it again and he gets to demand a trade by contract and the Celtics will have to honor it.

Kyre/Hayword/Brown/AD/Horford is a pretty solid core. Probably the favorites with the right FA role players. And Kyrie probably isn't going to do better in NY or LA with Durant out of the picture.
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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
Question about the trade clause... does it just mean he can force a trade or does he get to list a set if possible destinations?

Because if he isn’t careful, he may find himself in Memphis or Sacramento on a long term deal.


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
If the Celtics trade for AD and he hates it there, blah, blah, blah … can they still trade him again in February before the deadline?



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TigerinATL
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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
I've never heard of a "trade clause" in a contract. Are we sure we aren't talking about a "no trade clause"? Only the most powerful players typically get those and it really does give the player a lot of control.


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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Can the Lakers some how turn pick #4 into Bradley Beal?
CJ McCollum?
Rudy Gobert?
DeMar DeRozan?


Why in gods name would anybody trade one of them for the #4?


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
AD doesn't have a no trade but he does have a trade kicker of like 5 million.

Which he would likely waive if we needed him to to get to the Lakers, and would NOT waive for anyone else to make it more difficult.


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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Question about the trade clause... does it just mean he can force a trade or does he get to list a set if possible destinations?


That is what I am curious about.

giving the rocky season, I have to imagine Ainge can't really frick around too much, I would guess it would have come with veto power like Carmello had.


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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I've never heard of a "trade clause" in a contract. Are we sure we aren't talking about a "no trade clause"? Only the most powerful players typically get those and it really does give the player a lot of control.

Kyrie isn't even eligible for a no-trade clause though.


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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AD doesn't have a no trade but he does have a trade kicker of like 5 million.


No. I was responding to teke who was responding to Bronc who said something earlier about Ainge trying to entice Kyrie to stay by putting a "trade clause" in his next contract.
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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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Here’s the chess board for Boston: 1) They know the KD factor is off the board, meaning less likely that Kyrie will go there. 2) they know the Lakers can’t hold cap space until summer 2020 if they don’t get AD this season.

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The gamble is 1) IF they acquire AD, Kyrie won’t choose Brooklyn or NY or LA over staying in Boston with AD given what those teams will have in comparison and 2) that once they acquire AD, AD’s preferred destinations won’t be able to hold cap space til 2020 to acquire him.

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Lakers fans don’t want to hear it, but there’s no way the Lakers are punting on another year of LeBron’s career. Especially with the west wide open (guaranteed KD in GSW b/c of injury). They either get AD now or move on and put a good team around LeBron and go for it.

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And I don’t care where AD goes. Just giving you perspective on why Boston would still gamble on him. I hope he ends up in LA. I think that would be a compelling story. I just don’t think Ainge will make it easy for the reasons I listed.


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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I've never heard of a "trade clause" in a contract. Are we sure we aren't talking about a "no trade clause"? Only the most powerful players typically get those and it really does give the player a lot of control.


I heard it on Sirius this morning. I think it was Isola who said that he heard the Warriors were planning on offering KD a max extension with a clause that states that they will trade him whenever he desires if he so chooses during the contract.


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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Boston's dilemma: Offer Tatum -- along with a package of young players and picks -- and New Orleans probably bites. But if Kyrie walks this year, Davis the next all the gains made in the Nets trade disappear.



Doesn’t he know Ainge isn’t worried about that


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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I've never heard of a "trade clause" in a contract. Are we sure we aren't talking about a "no trade clause"? Only the most powerful players typically get those and it really does give the player a lot of control.


I'm guessing that they are just talking about a gentleman's agreement. Ainge saying: "If next season isn't going well, and you want out in February, I'll trade you to a contender."

I would think that would make staying in Boston much more attractive to Kyrie.


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
nate jones
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Here’s the chess board for Boston: 1) They know the KD factor is off the board, meaning less likely that Kyrie will go there. 2) they know the Lakers can’t hold cap space until summer 2020 if they don’t get AD this season.

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The gamble is 1) IF they acquire AD, Kyrie won’t choose Brooklyn or NY or LA over staying in Boston with AD given what those teams will have in comparison and 2) that once they acquire AD, AD’s preferred destinations won’t be able to hold cap space til 2020 to acquire him.

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Lakers fans don’t want to hear it, but there’s no way the Lakers are punting on another year of LeBron’s career. Especially with the west wide open (guaranteed KD in GSW b/c of injury). They either get AD now or move on and put a good team around LeBron and go for it.

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And I don’t care where AD goes. Just giving you perspective on why Boston would still gamble on him. I hope he ends up in LA. I think that would be a compelling story. I just don’t think Ainge will make it easy for the reasons I listed.


shel311
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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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Doesn’t he know Ainge isn’t worried about that

It's almost like Boston isn't in the mix for AD right now.


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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) they know the Lakers can’t hold cap space until summer 2020 if they don’t get AD this season.


Laker fans have yet to grasp this one


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cgrand
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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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Getting a sense that the Celtics and Lakers are playing somewhat of a game of chicken in the AD talks. Whoever ponies up first, will get AD. Pelicans aren't blinking with either team right now. They still hold all the cards here.


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Lester Earl
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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
Oh they are. As long as they can compete for the 1 year they get him


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re: The Fletchiest of Mackels: "My bet: AD to Celtics as soon as tonight"
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Why in gods name would anybody trade one of them for the #4?




That’s for the Lakers to figure out


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