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re: Steven Adams extension
Posted on 11/24/20 at 6:32 pm to Theblairs02
Posted on 11/24/20 at 6:32 pm to Theblairs02
Hard to believe Adams is only 27. Feels like he's been in the league for at least a decade.
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:10 pm to yaboidarrell
Adams is a fricking Animal, a dog, a Assassin.
Cannot think of a better Center next to Zion.
He will be the enforcer and you will see this team grow.
Cannot think of a better Center next to Zion.
He will be the enforcer and you will see this team grow.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:22 pm to Epic Cajun
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What I don't get is how people (even national media guys) are talking about how we're going to have issues because we don't have shooting. Our shooting is very slightly worse going from Jrue to Bledsoe, the rest of our shooting is still here, and shooting was not an issue with this team last season.
Interesting.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:42 pm to Chalkywhite84
Another bump in which I come out completely unscathed. Out here dodging bullets
Posted on 8/7/21 at 6:55 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Interesting.
You think spacing was our big issue last season? Not dog shite defense and the lack of a primary ball handler?
Do me a favor and look up Zion’s FG% in the paint.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:02 pm to Epic Cajun
You said it wouldn't be an issue, it was.
Many of us pointed out in detail why it was a problem, and why Adams was a part of it.
Zion being a historical freak doesn't negate the problem with our spacing, and Zion isn't the only one affected by it.
BI had to take tougher shots, in less optimum zones not he floor because the lack of spacing made it impossible to do what he does best which is attack the basket.
Many of us pointed out in detail why it was a problem, and why Adams was a part of it.
Zion being a historical freak doesn't negate the problem with our spacing, and Zion isn't the only one affected by it.
BI had to take tougher shots, in less optimum zones not he floor because the lack of spacing made it impossible to do what he does best which is attack the basket.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:03 pm to Bronc
Okay cool you’re right, who fricking cares? Adams isn’t on this roster anymore, and this is some childish bullshite.
What kinda loser actually bookmarks people’s posts and tries to call them out a year later? Get a fricking life
What kinda loser actually bookmarks people’s posts and tries to call them out a year later? Get a fricking life
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:09 pm to Epic Cajun
I think this thread is a good reminder about how people have a tendency to see the Pels offseason through the most rose colored of glasses and rarely are willing to take a critical look at the moves and overall situation.
Even those that want to claim they aren't doing that, you see threads like this and are reminded they may be telling themselves that, but they are always erring on the side of major optimism.
If this team has showed us anything it is that you can't assume the best, ever. And that if there is a lot of smart criticism, there is probably some validity to it, and handwaving it away is not going to stand the test of time.
Even those that want to claim they aren't doing that, you see threads like this and are reminded they may be telling themselves that, but they are always erring on the side of major optimism.
If this team has showed us anything it is that you can't assume the best, ever. And that if there is a lot of smart criticism, there is probably some validity to it, and handwaving it away is not going to stand the test of time.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:10 pm to Epic Cajun
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Quiet as kept, he did not have a good year last season. I'm not by any means saying he is fried, but Adams may very well be on the backside of his prime.
I got roasted for this take.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:11 pm to Bronc
And what does being a pessimistic frick do for you? Allow you to say “I told you so” a year later? Sorry but that’s pathetic
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:16 pm to Epic Cajun
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And what does being a pessimistic frick do for you? Allow you to say “I told you so” a year later? Sorry but that’s pathetic
It's not about pessimism or optimism, it's about being as objective as you can so you don't overhype yourself(or get too low) and set insane expectations either way.
I don't know man, maybe it's just a different mentality. Everyone is wrong from time to time, some have better track records than others.
When I'm wrong I try to look at what led to that and improve it. Maybe that's not you, IDK. You do you buddy.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:19 pm to Soggymoss
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100% guarantee, if Adams hits the open market next season he would have gotten 20-25 million per year
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For those complaining, Adams is/will be a good contract at 17.5 per. Rudy Gobert is on the verge of signing a full 5 year max with Utah, Bam will likely get a full 5 year max with Miami, Jokic is on a full max. Embiid is maxed.
I don't think they're worth twice as much as Adams
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:37 pm to Bronc
Maybe you take chatting on a forum about a basketball team a little more seriously than I do. I openly admit that I’m an optimist, I try to look at the positives of almost any situation. If that makes me “wrong” at times, so be it. I’m a fan because I enjoy it, if I was a pessimist, then I just wouldn’t be a fan.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:39 pm to Epic Cajun
Don’t feel like going through 9 pages but I’m liable to have posted some cringe sunshine pumping ngl
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:55 pm to Epic Cajun
You’re definitely right. The people that go look up old threads to call out takes are absolute losers. Lol
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:01 pm to GynoSandberg
Why are you just bumping this now? We have known that in hindsight this was a bad move for a while…..
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:08 pm to Epic Cajun
But if you're always optimistic about a terrible franchise, then arent you almost always wrong?
Like how have you not learned by now to be objective?
And not just you specifically, it's half this board. This thread is a perfect example of the fans on this board being blinded by optimism, when it's not grounded in reality whatsoever.
Same people justifying the Adams trade and extension in this thread are the same people who were cool with the return we got for Lonzo and the same people making the case we improved this off-season. These views just aren't based in logic or reality.
Like how have you not learned by now to be objective?
And not just you specifically, it's half this board. This thread is a perfect example of the fans on this board being blinded by optimism, when it's not grounded in reality whatsoever.
Same people justifying the Adams trade and extension in this thread are the same people who were cool with the return we got for Lonzo and the same people making the case we improved this off-season. These views just aren't based in logic or reality.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:11 pm to TechTiger
People do talk about moves without context and just hindsight.
Favors wasn't the answer and looked geriatric, Hayes did not show enough promise to trust him as a starter, and we needed a strong presence down low.
Even using center #s today, 17mil was maybe 5mil overpay. Not crippling
Favors wasn't the answer and looked geriatric, Hayes did not show enough promise to trust him as a starter, and we needed a strong presence down low.
Even using center #s today, 17mil was maybe 5mil overpay. Not crippling
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:17 pm to htran90
It was a huge overpay when you consider we gave up draft picks to get him, then overpaid him when he was a terrible fit for this roster and on the downside of his career. Then traded more assets to move him a year later.
The margin for error is much smaller for a franchise like us, so every move like this is crippling.
The margin for error is much smaller for a franchise like us, so every move like this is crippling.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:28 pm to RUFshreve
I still think the team would have been much worse through the first half of the season without Adams. Hayes just wasn't ready until the light came on for him.
The Adams extension was kind of mind boggling, but without him early we would have struggled a lot more than we did. Of course that might have meant a lot better odds in the lottery, so maybe it WOULD have been better without him.
The Adams extension was kind of mind boggling, but without him early we would have struggled a lot more than we did. Of course that might have meant a lot better odds in the lottery, so maybe it WOULD have been better without him.
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