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re: Steven Adams extension
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:36 am to J_Hingle
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:36 am to J_Hingle
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I don’t think it’s a bad signing and it somewhat clears up the reason for trading for a guy on his last year, but I don’t really understand what they are doing. They are acquiring all of these draft picks and swaps but then trade some of those assets for a center under a hefty contract. If you want to build slow then do that, through the draft and maybe use those swaps down the line for a trade maybe, but it seems like they have a foot in each door. Keeping Bledsoe and extending adams seems contradicting. You’re keeping guys around instead of acquiring more assets for what, get you to the 9-10 seed?
I don't think they looked at the lottery protected pick as a huge asset, and I'm not one to really care about second round picks.
I think they are trying to balance between creating a culture with vets around our young guys, and planning for the future. IMO, they've done a pretty good job of that these last two seasons. Unfortunately the Zion injury derailed the beginning of last season, and COVID finished off the rest of it
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:39 am to Lester Earl
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You can’t have a bunch of rookies running around. You need veterans. NAW gives a lot of credit to JJ for helping him develop. The roster can only hold 15 players. Those assets you’re talking about was from MILWAUKEE not from Pelicans. What do you expect those picks turn into? They were a late first and 2 second rounders. Teams can actually buy those picks from other teams. It’s not like they were lotto picks.
I understand you can't have all rookies, but what are you keeping guys like bledsoe and Adams around for? Unless you can't flip them for future picks I guess. And most likely all of the picks we have acquired through the lakers and bucks won't be lotto picks. There is a very high chance that we can do absolutely nothing with those pick swaps. So what are they doing? Why acquire those assets and then stop when it comes to bledsoe and adams? Why keep them? You aren't going to win the west this season and probably not for a long while, if they ever do. And with this roster you might make the 8-10 seed
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 8:40 am
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:40 am to Lester Earl
Horford JUST signed his deal last year.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:43 am to Soggymoss
And he’d get 40% of that THIS year
People thought his deal was horrible when he got it
People thought his deal was horrible when he got it
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:43 am to Lester Earl
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never said it was. Find whatever it was I said that you have beef with but don’t make shite up
You said “you get paid stuff for like that. Not for setting screens”
Adams is getting paid for more than just setting screens. If these guys are about to get paid 30+. Adams should be in the middle and 17.5-20 isn’t bad for him. It should be comparing Adams and someone who is making +15 million a year to one of these stars player (Adebayo and Gobert).
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:46 am to duyp
It’s hyperbole man. I like Adams.
He’s not Rudy or Bam though. His skills are fine but no one is paying a premium for them like they are going to for the other 2 guys
He’s not Rudy or Bam though. His skills are fine but no one is paying a premium for them like they are going to for the other 2 guys
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:46 am to J_Hingle
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understand you can't have all rookies, but what are you keeping guys like bledsoe and Adams around for?
Then who do you expect we get? We aren’t getting all star/superstar players now. These guys fit well with us to help us develop our players and help us stay in the mix. Once our young superstars hit their prime, these guys contracts expired.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:46 am to Lester Earl
I think its pretty clear that based on the current roster construction, they want to give the young guys an increased role with very little safety net.
NAW, Kira, Jaxson have a pretty clear path to getting minutes this year.
NAW, Kira, Jaxson have a pretty clear path to getting minutes this year.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:46 am to J_Hingle
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what are you keeping guys like bledsoe and Adams around for?
Because they actually want to win games. Between the flattened lottery odds and the playin tournament giving #10 a shot at the playoffs, there's a lot less incentive go into full tank mode.
On top of that, the Pels appear to already have their long term #1 and #2. I would think the odds are much better of building a winning culture around Zion/Ingram and hoping to find a Kawhi/Butler, who blossomed in no small part because they went to established teams trying to win, than continuing to "develop young talent" in hopes of repeating the OKC model and drafting your 3rd star.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 8:48 am
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:47 am to Lester Earl
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And he’d get 40% of that THIS year
And why is that?
BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CAP SPACE AVAILABLE THIS YEAR
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:48 am to Lester Earl
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He’s not Rudy or Bam though. His skills are fine but no one is paying a premium for them like they are going to for the other 2 guys
Of course he’s not Rudy or Bam, but it sets a market on where Adam lands in price range. I understand if Adams was getting paid 30 but he’s only getting paid half that. It’s like you’re saying Harden gets paid 35 million but Jrue doesn’t deserve to get paid 20 million.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:49 am to Soggymoss
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And why is that?
BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CAP SPACE AVAILABLE THIS YEAR
Signed,
Steven Adams, 2021-22, 2022-23
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:50 am to Lester Earl
He meant league wide. No one had cap space.
A ton of teams will have cap space next year.
A ton of teams will have cap space next year.
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:51 am to Lester Earl
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Signed,
Steven Adams, 2021-22, 2022-23
Let’s wait to see what he does this year for us and then judge. He fits in what we needed last year. 27 million is a lot of money for this year, but we really wasn’t going to be really signing anyone this year honestly.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 8:52 am
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:52 am to duyp
In the nba, where players just about always win, do you really think Steven Adams & his agent are knowingly forfeiting money by signing an extension without hitting the open market?
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:54 am to TigerinATL
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On top of that, the Pels appear to already have their long term #1 and #2. I would think the odds are much better of building a winning culture around Zion/Ingram and hoping to find a Kawhi/Butler, who blossomed in no small part because they went to established teams trying to win, than continuing to "develop young talent" in hopes of repeating the OKC model and drafting your 3rd star.
You can say that about Philly also with Embiid and Simmons. Too bad their GM had to frick it up. That last year squad was stacked. They would have won if it wasn’t for some miracle shot by Leonard.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 8:56 am
Posted on 11/24/20 at 8:54 am to Lester Earl
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And why is that?
BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CAP SPACE AVAILABLE THIS YEAR
Signed,
Steven Adams, 2021-22, 2022-23
What point are you trying to make here, Mo?
Your response to there’s no cap space this year is to bring up a guy who got an extension?
Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:02 am to Fun Bunch
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He meant league wide. No one had cap space.
A ton of teams will have cap space next year.
I know what he meant
Adams just took a 40% paycut without even testing the open market. That doesn’t reflect the low cap this year
Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:07 am to Lester Earl
Only a few teams will need starting centers next offseason. Have a look. I reckon only a few of the big name centers get paid paid
Posted on 11/24/20 at 9:13 am to GynoSandberg
Pels are playing chess I guess
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