re: Stein is hearing that Ham and Hetzel made "strong impressions" on Pelicans FO

Its going to be Ham

Hes cheap
He sucks
Hes black

What other box does he need to check to get the job?

Remember the Pelicans leadership is trying to drive down fan interest to a level that selling and relocation is met with apathy, not anger.

For the most part yeah. I could see the Grizz moving to Nashville but other than that it’ll be awhile.

Jake is convinced it’s going to be Hetzel

if it's Ham i'll just straight up switch to the Sonics i think.

If there was one thing on the planet that could actually make me care less about the team, it would be if we hired Darvin freaking Ham as the head coach.

Willie Green would be better than Darvin Ham
Typical Pels though
If I'm Gayle with the $ nba teams are selling for, I would sell
I bet Seattle or Nashville group would pay a pretty penny for a team

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Willie Green would be better than Darvin Ham

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No he's not.

This is the frustrating part about all of this. Nobody can explain how he's bad. He was in the playoffs both years with the Lakers. He's been a successful assistant. He's won two inseason tournaments. He's a legit good coach. His team had a meltdown and lost in the playoffs (to the eventual champion). People are blaming him for not winning a Championship with the Lakers. That's an insanely high bar. For some reason Reddick is getting a pass on that. I just don't get the vitriol. It doesn't make sense..

I asked Google why is Davin Ham considered a bad coach:

Darvin Ham's tenure as head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers (2022–2024) drew significant criticism, leading to his firing despite leading the team to a Western Conference Finals appearance and an In-Season Tournament championship. Critics and fans largely attributed his reputation as a "bad" coach to a combination of questionable in-game decisions, rigid rotations, and poor team preparation.
Here are the primary reasons Darvin Ham was criticized:
1. In-Game Management and RotationsRotations and Lineups: Ham was frequently criticized for using "three-guard" lineups that were ineffective, particularly in critical situations, and for inconsistent playing time for key players.Stubbornness with Personnel: He showed favoritism toward certain players (e.g., Taurean Prince, Cam Reddish) while burying others (e.g., Max Christie, Rui Hachimura) on the bench, often regardless of player performance.Mismanaging Momentum: He was often slow to call timeouts during opponent scoring runs (e.g., 10-0 runs), allowing games to get out of hand before reacting.Poor Challenge Decisions: Ham was viewed as incompetent in using the coach's challenge, frequently failing to challenge obviously wrong calls or using them at inappropriate times.
2. Lack of In-Game Adjustments"Hands in Pockets" Coaching: Fans and critics often noticed Ham standing on the sidelines with his hands in his pockets, appearing passive while the opposing team—particularly the Denver Nuggets—made crucial adjustments that he failed to counter.No Organized Offense: Critics argued that the team lacked a defined offensive structure, often relying on isolation plays rather than designed plays.
3. Team Performance and AccountabilityIneffective Post-IST Slump: Following the team's In-Season Tournament championship, the Lakers went on a severe losing slump (3-10 record), which raised questions about his ability to manage a team over a long season.Defensive Failures: Despite being considered a "defensive-minded" coach, the team often failed to execute defensive schemes, leading to easy points for opponents.Lack of Accountability: Critics pointed out that Ham rarely took responsibility for losses in post-game conferences, often blaming players or bringing up injuries, which ultimately led to him "losing the locker room".
4. Player DisrespectLoss of Confidence: Reports suggested that star players, including Anthony Davis, lost faith in his coaching ability.Public Disrespect: There were instances where players openly showed frustration or disregarded his instructions during games.While some considered him a potential scapegoat for deeper organizational issues (such as roster construction), the general consensus was that his strategic failings and inability to manage the team's dynamics made him an ineffective choice for a championship-contending team.

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This is the frustrating part about all of this. Nobody can explain how he's bad.

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Well he is basically a young Uncle Al when it comes to time management and know when/how to stop a run. He was constantly criticized for that. They were known to sleepwalk on games under him but that might have been a product of the old dudes on the roster, but still not a good sign. Fans were constantly roasting him for rotations as well.

But he also in just two years completely lost the locker room. The team basically had a revolt against him. When a team quits on you that early in your tenure, it's not a good sign.

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The lockerroom was James and Davis. Once he lost those two, he was gone. In retrospect, Davis was traded less than a year later and the Lakers have tried everything to get rid of James as well. They just want to turn the page on that whole era.

I don't watch the Lakers that closely. So maybe all of that is valid. I just don't think it's a large enough sample size to demolish his career or prevent him from getting another head job. Especially when you take a step back and see it from a larger scale. It just doesn't look like that massive of a coaching failure. Literally people are saying he should have won the championship. I just never saw the Lakers as elite.

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They traded AD for Luka. A no brainer. You seem to want everyone else to do the research for you and do not like the answers.