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re: Scoot Wants to be in New Orleans & Zion is Available, per Chris Haynes

Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:50 am to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43457 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:50 am to
I still think the best team outcome is:

Scoot
CJ
Trey
Zion
Turner

Jose
Sharpe
Herb
Nance
Matkovic/EJ/Naz Ried hell whoever you want you got money
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:51 am to
quote:

cobbling together a lot of stuff to make a desperate Minnesota and Portland both take a loss to get close to what they want. That's the only way it happens though, by having 2 desperate teams in the right place at the right time.

If this opportunity presents itself it's great we still have so much draft capital to throw out. Matching contracts becomes the calculus, though.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:55 am to
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Scoot Wants to be in New Orleans
Put this on the Con list, shows questionable decision making.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8784 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:01 am to
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If Portland would take KAT and Minnesota didn't want Scoot because they feel he's too redundant with Ant, I could see a way the Pels could be the 3rd team and walk away with the best player by cobbling together a lot of stuff to make a desperate Minnesota and Portland both take a loss to get close to what they want. That's the only way it happens though, by having 2 desperate teams in the right place at the right time. Even then it seems unlikely.


Yea, this is what I was getting at. Using young players + picks to facilitate getting another star or quasi-star from another team. It's a longshot, but a small possibility
Posted by M3From225
Member since Feb 2021
332 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:14 am to
Scoot also wants to be in San Antonio per ESPN
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:16 am to
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Yea, this is what I was getting at. Using young players + picks to facilitate getting another star or quasi-star from another team. It's a longshot, but a small possibility

This is why i think helping facilitate a PG trade to Portland would be ideal for all. Clips can get Simons, Dyson and Herb and still have salary left to add another star player along with all the picks we would be sending them, or they keep everyone and have a damn good young team built around Kawhi without him having to go through rookie growing pains.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:19 am to
Because he wants to be number one. Every player in lottery would love to be number one.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:20 am to
True, BUT SA has a history of being very good with player development and patient, provided you don’t jerk off in front of your psychologist.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:21 am to
Yeah but reality is they been kind of mediocre to bad past couple of years. Ever since Kawhi left they haven’t been the same.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:22 am to
When you don’t have an all time great like Duncan or Robinson anchoring you, it is harder for those diamonds in the rough to really shine.
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
5321 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:23 am to
Some of these trades are unrealistic.
How much does portland or Charlotte want an often injured player? not as much as you think. Oden, Bowie, Zion ?

Here's what i believe. Griff is willing to trade Zion to Charlotte for scoot and some other stuff b/c it fixes 2 things.

He doesn't really want to trade him to portland or a west team.

Scoot is an all star caliber potential player that will be cap friendly until CJ is gone. The unknown product on the court will also be gone.

But in the end i give it 20% chance of happening.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:27 am to
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Some of these trades are unrealistic. How much does portland or Charlotte want an often injured player? not as much as you think. Oden, Bowie, Zion ?


Depends on what the front office’s mindset is going forward.

If they want to build long term, they move Dame for young talent.

If they want to push hard for a winner, they burn it to the ground to get Dame over the top.


Keep in mind that Jody Allen is the executor of the team but not the actual owner. Paul Allen’s estate is, and I think there are rules on where proceeds from the sale of the Blazers, Seahawks, etc, will go and it won’t be in Jody’s pockets.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:37 am to
I just saw Dame liked a tweet of Zion rumored to coming to Portland. Dame really putting the blazers front office feet to the fire to get deal done or he knows one is already done.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37080 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:42 am to
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What do you value more:

Trey, Herb, Dyson or Scoot

Personally, I still prefer the trio.

I think it's a moot point.

If the Blazers are trading the pick, then they are doing so with a mind toward winning now which means they are trading for a star to pair with Dame. If they wanted to go young, they'd keep the pick and trade Dame for more assets.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130325 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:47 am to
Or he liked a tweet because he knows Zion is an other worldly player and would like to play with him
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
13192 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:51 am to
I’d hope nobody is getting their hopes up thinking this is going to happen
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:53 am to
Yeah but doing that still has the effect I talked about- It will likely put pressure on portland getting deal done. I know we keep saying the chances for a deal are low but I don’t know man I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re just trying to rough out edges- granted that can still stop a deal but instead of going away its just getting louder and louder. Again with all that being said nothing can happen and Griffin can act like hes running it back.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:54 am to
Like at this point would you be in utter shock if it did happen? Is that so unbelievable?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:59 am to
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I’d hope nobody is getting their hopes up thinking this is going to happen


Something’s happening. It’s a question of what, not “when is this trade happening”.

Too much smoke not to be something in the works one way or another, it is a question of who is misdirecting who about their plans.

We could be trading back instead of trading up. Portland could be trying to get someone else by using Zion and BI as potential players they end up with in order to up the bidding from others. Etc.
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
13192 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:06 am to
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Like at this point would you be in utter shock if it did happen? Is that so unbelievable?

Utter shock? No. But surprised Griffin had the balls to pull the trigger? Yes.
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