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re: Report: Pelicans believe they have a playoff roster and will not trade any core player

Posted on 2/4/26 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81377 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 1:45 pm to
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Our team have great players


We don't though.

Murphy is a good player, Herb is a good player. Fears has potential to be a good player, Queen has potential to be a great player.

Zion is a black hole.

By pretty much every metric and player ranking system, we currently have one of the worst collection of players in the league.
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 1:47 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30355 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 1:56 pm to
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His role would have to change, but if AG can be the #3 on that Nuggets championship team, then I’m confident Zion could



I'm sorry what?

Aaron Gordon is one of the best defenders in the league. Hugely underrated in that aspect.
and he actually shoots threes, and get this, he makes them too.

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Zion was playing very good defense on Lamelo on the perimeter late in that game,


yeah, when he wants to play good defense, he is good. But he's a lazy sack of shite that doens't care about playign good defense 95% of the time.

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And I don’t think it’s fair to say Z is a bad off ball player, we just don’t have the players to set up the offense and get him looks.





He literally does nothing off the ball. He just stands in the corner. Sometimes he goes after offensive rebounds, more often than not he's just getting ready to lightly jog back on defense.
He is ZERO THREAT off the ball. He can't shoot, doesn't cut, we rarely use him to set screens and even when we do he's lazy rolling to the rim most of the time.

When he doesn't have the ball in his hands, we are playing 4 on 5. When he has the ball in his hands we are playing 1 on 5.

Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
3234 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:04 pm to
Call me optimistic, I think it has more to do with poor coaching and poor fit around him. Put Z on a well coached team with a good cast of players around him, I think he contributes to winning in that situation. You aren’t changing my mind and I’m not changing yours. We’ll find out in a year or two.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27594 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:06 pm to
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When will you realize that you’re not the arbiter on what random message board posters can talk about on a message board?


Ok drama queen
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81377 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:08 pm to
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Call me optimistic,


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think it has more to do with poor coaching and poor fit around him. Put Z on a well coached team with a good cast of players around him, I think he contributes to winning in that situation.


This isn't optimism, this is delusion.


NBA is a player-driven league. Zion is now on his 4th coach in seven seasons. If none of those four can get him to change, no active coach is going to get through to him, short of maybe Spoelstra's Heat culture, but Heat culture is predicated on defense first, which is probably the poorest part of Zion's game.

He is who he is at this point and it's only going to get worse as his athleticism degrades each year from age and lack of fitness.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81377 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:09 pm to
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Ok drama queen


Says the guy who started this whole back-and-forth.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162937 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:16 pm to
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“Still, sources around the league has said the message they get from the Pelicans is they believe they have a playoff roster they just need the right combination of coaching and development to unlock it.”


I’m starting to believe the conspiracy that Dumars was sent in to just decimate the franchise, kill what little fan base is left, then they can relocate the team with little to no uproar

What a joke
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27594 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:18 pm to
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Says the guy who started this whole back-and-forth.


Lol I've apologized and you're still going after me. Grow up
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81377 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:19 pm to
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Lol I've apologized and you're still going after me. Grow up


We're both going after each other. Own it for what it is.

It's really not that serious. It's a message board and I made a prima nocta joke earlier.
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130320 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:21 pm to
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I’m starting to believe the conspiracy that Dumars was sent in to just decimate the franchise, kill what little fan base is left, then they can relocate the team with little to no uproar



I feel like it was a new arena play
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81377 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:25 pm to
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I feel like it was a new arena play


If this is what it was, then everyone needs to be fired.

Worst way to get a new arena is have low attendance in the current arena.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27594 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:25 pm to
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We're both going after each other. Own it for what it is.


I stopped and apologized. And you kept going. Thats what it is.

Now get back to talking about how we're fricked. I dont want bunchie coming down on me again, hes good for the board haha
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3388 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:29 pm to
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Yeah I’m convinced yall are retarded


No shite Herb and Murphy are better than Bey and Peavy dumbass. I’m saying if we are trading Herb and Murphy for good assets and future picks. Peavy and Bey are decent enough with those assets and picks.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81377 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:30 pm to
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I stopped and apologized.


You railed on me for three pages and then said you're sorry after you realized you looked like a dumbass. And even then, you prefaced it by pointing out my negativity.

Regardless, it's a message board. Who gives a frick about apologies? If I had to guess, we're both probably well adjusted human beings where our everyday lives aren't actually affected by the Pels sucking, so we hid behind meaningless screen names to shitpost.

You're going to call out my bullshite again and I'm going to call out your bullshite again. It's lowkey cathartic and fun. You know it is, why else would you keep putting yourself through it?

Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6609 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:30 pm to
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I feel like it was a new arena play

There can be no new arena. NOLA’s credit rating was just downgraded by Moody’s to junk status and their reserves are exhausted. We’re not a major league city/market any longer and the Pels are doing more damage than good being here.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27594 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:31 pm to
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You know it is, why else would you keep putting yourself through it?


Thats fair.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
6133 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:33 pm to
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I feel like it was a new arena play

What’s the logic on this?
Posted by Demps
Member since Oct 2025
1347 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16729 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:47 pm to
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Demps


This reminds me of the good old days.

Be careful what you wish for I guess.

Posted by Gonadballbarian
Member since Dec 2017
1730 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 3:07 pm to
Not trying to defend it, but If all those people weren't injured all the time and actually played, we could be on the bubble of the playoffs. With good coaching. I think that's the point. Trey isn't injury prone. Poole it is not injury prone. Murray is a little bit. He was an All-Star. Obviously Zion is.
I guess they live in a pretend world where they think all of these people will be healthy and playing to their potential simultaneously with great coaching
They must have high hopes
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