re: Pels openly discussing trading Jrue

FYI, Kushner was on The Ringer NBA Show Group Chat today talking about the Jrue Holiday situation.

He seems to think that a primary ball handler is what the Pels need, and for some reason he thinks he’s in the minority of thinking that way (I feel like a decent amount of people agree with that take).

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I'm intrigued by shams suggestion. I've said that's about what it would take to do it. Honestly Huerter, Hunter, and #6 is interesting without the future pick.

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What was Sham's suggestion?

I would take Hunter over Reddish anytime

Reddish, at absolute worst, is going to be an elite 3 ball guy. At worst

He’s almost a full two years younger than Hunter.

His growth potential exceeds anyone of that team available for trade:

Yeah Reddish played excellent down the stretch and has far more potential than hunter

I'm going to post this again as a reminder of the precedence set before by other somewhat similar players being traded with a year left on their deal recently.

The Bulter trade from Minny was weird, but it only cost Philly Covington and Saric. Solid starter in Covington, young talent in Saric.
Paul George cost Oladipo and Sabonis. Young quality starter who turned into an all-star, and a young talent in Sabonis.
CP3 cost Beverly, Lou Williams, Montrez, Dekker and a first
Consider this when you think of trade ideas for Jrue.

Also, to those saying the #2 pick isn't worth as much this year b/c of the uncertainty, i'll again point out that not since 1999 has there NOT been at least 1 all-star drafted in the first 3 picks. With the uncertainty of who the top pick should be, that should tell you that there's a better than normal chance you can get that all-star at #2.


I think the precedence is one very quality starter and either a top 10 pick or a top 10 pick from last year that has shown some true promise to become a quality starter. Or the CP3 route with a bunch of quality role players and a late 1st or two.

From Atlanta, you're talking about #6 and either Hunter/Reddish, and maybe Huerter since there's a lot of unknown with the #6 and Hunter/Reddish. I don't think you can say either of them have shown the promise of becoming a very quality starter like Sabonis had. Although Reddish got a lot of praise as the season went on, and while i did not want to draft him, i think he has a much higher upside than Hunter does.

From Brooklyn, you're talking more of a CP3/Houston type deal where it's a bunch of ok starter/role players and a not so attractive 1st or two. It obviously centers around LeVert and how much you value him. Is he OKC Oladipo level value? If so, then you're probably only going to get LeVert and something like Allen or Prince/1st. I think the big difference between the Paul George trade and this Jrue trade is Paul George let it be known he was going to LA after a year, so he was just a rental, and that drove the price down a lot, so maybe there's precedence to get a bit more than a Oladipo/Sabonis return for Jrue, especially if GSW and Brooklyn are bidding for him.

For GSW, it's Wiggins and #2, and i'm really not sure how much more we can get out of them. Maybe if we gave them #13 we can get the Minny 21 1st too, that's assuming GSW wants a draft pick this year instead of next year. I don't think Wiggins has as much negative value as some of you think he does. Russell was the better player in that trade, just like Jrue is the better player in this trade, but i can't see them having to give up much more than the #2 pick to complete this trade. Maybe we can argue that Jrue is more valuable than Russell and we want GSW's 2021 1st, which obviously will be a very late 1st, but that's about the value Wiggins/Russell trade was.


I don't think Denver can offer enough without including MPJ. Even if they did a S&T with Grant, we'd have to really like Grant, someone like Monte Morris and Will Barton and then a future first.

Exactly.

And lord some of these proposed trades are just absolutely ridiculous.

How many trades are going to be constructed for role players that other teams acquire cheaply, yet you want the Pels to trade one of their big assets for.

Like would I take Kevin huerter on my team?

Yea sure.

But am I trading Jrue for him as one of the main pieces?

Wut. No.

Get a grip Sons

Most fans don't really have the knowledge or thinking to construct multi-team trades, or to gauge value.

I think Jrue's value will be very high given the nature of this offseason and the devaluation of rookies due to a weak draft and free agency period, no summer league, and shortened offseason...and I don't think Lowe and Marks factored that in at all.

But it is still tough to construct a deal that works giving the Pelicans value at there different levels: Veteran Player, Young Upside Player, Draft pick.

Reddish, Hunter , 6.

Zion gets his buddy from college.

Everyone is happy

Im intrigued by Atlanta. I've just never thought they were actually an option.

I'm not sure why Jrue would want to make a lateral move, at best(if i'm being charitable to Atl), to the Hawks. I dont think we'd do him dirty by dealing him somewhere he wouldn't want to be. But if he agreed to Atlanta, for some reason, I like the assets they have.