re: Pels openly discussing trading Jrue

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They are really set on the Warriors trade. They think Jrue+13 for Wiggins+2. They said there is absolutely no way the Warriors give up both #2 and next years Minny pick.

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I can’t believe smart bball guys have such a crazy opinion. There’s no chance whatsoever that gets the deals done. The 2nd pick in this draft is the equivalent of maybe the 10th in a good draft.

Because that is way over value.

The Warriors traded Russell and two more players for Wiggins and a protected 21 pick.

People are trying to say the Warriors would do Wiggins, the #2 and the 21 protected pick for Holiday.

Why would Holiday on an expiring be worth so much more than Russell? How did Wiggins hurt his value since that trade?

If and a big if GSW trade for Jrue it would probably be

Wiggins, #2, player

Wiggins, #2, 2021 1st ( they get #13) maybe we get another player?

3 team trade and I have no clue

Oh you mean 2 scrubs added to the trade to make it work? Let’s not act like those 2 players have any value.

Those two additions took the Warriors out of the luxury tax. So had a huge impact. Other teams don't volunteer to help out others. The Warriors FO is pretty savvy. Expecting us to get over on them is unrealistic..

Well, they won’t get Jrue then. That’s simple.

They can get him if they want. We are debating value. Wiggins was just traded. His value is pretty much determined. We can use that as a guide. I don't believe Holiday has as much value as Russell (the Wolves wouldn't do a straight up swap if we called). But if the value is similar, perhaps that gets it done.

So Wiggins and the 2021 pick for Holiday would be close. But I think the Warriors would want a bit more. If its the 2nd pick instead of the 2021 pick, I think they want even more.

That isn’t how this works. Value isn’t static.

This year’s situation is completely different. The market for good vets under contract will never be higher than it is this short offseason for all of the reasons I laid out.

If we;re spitballing what about something like this? Considering Paul's end of year the Thunder might not go for it, but I think it's fair for everyone.

We get a Vet to take some of Jrue's load. Lonzo gets to play offball in the half court and be the transition point guard so Paul doesn't have too.

Warrior's get Jrue and another 1st to offset trading they're top draft assets.

Thunder get to lower their cap space, move up in this years draft, and they are one if the few teams that can possibly be a good place for wiggins. Also, it seems like they are gonna go full rebuild. So another lotto pick and a late 1st could be attractive, and they get off the Paul contract so they're below

Pels get:
Chris Paul
2020 Warriors 1st
2021 Timberwolves 1st

Warriors get:
Jrue
Denver 2020 1st

Thunder get:
Andrew Wiggins
Pels 2020 1st
Lakers 2021 1st

Just listened to Lowe Post. I like Zach Lowe. That was kind of bad. They listed a Nets deal as “Levert and fillers”. Lolwat

Zach did make the point that we do not need to trade him and aren’t bluffing that we could keep him.

And they are dead wrong on GS. We would not need to include 13. So wrong.