re: Pels meeting with Rondo

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Chicago's NetRtg with Rondo on court last year was -2.1 which was slightly better than DWade's -2.4. It also rates him slightly better than E'Tuwan Moore's -2.4 for the Pels.

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The Pels NetRtg with Frazier on the court was -3.0, so Rondo is at least an upgrade over Frazie

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so ive seen this a few times and it is more than a little misleading. those numbers are interesting indicators of value, but also have context and that needs to be noted.

for instance-

Rondo has a -2.0. when he was off the court, the Bulls were a net +2. so a 4 point increase when he sat. Moore has a -2.4 while on, and Pels are a -1.0 when he sat. so a 1.4 point increase

they both played around 1800 minutes. but Rondo started 42 games, Moore started 22. that is worth thinking about when looking at Net Ratings for players


another interesting thing to note- the Pels had three distinct versions of their team during the year. Moore's worst stretch was from XMas-ASB. during that time, he played more minutes w/ Tyreke and Jones than anyone else. they were a -10.

luckily for the Pels, those guys arent around. really, the only thing worth digging into is how they played post ASB. and even that is troublesome b/c of sample size and that they were flying blind schematically after Cousins.

for reference, Moore was -1.0 ON. Pels were +.6 when he sat.




does any of that say Moore is definitively good or will be better than Rondo would be on this team? of course not. but it just isnt as simple as plugging in one player's Net Rating for another and viola!

There is no bigger collection of idiots than the people on twitter

I have a question: Rondo is 32... May never get another contract worth more than the minimum after this year:

Would you be willing to give him a small 3 year deal just to be our teams vet (guy who has been to and won championships)?

If you look at the roster we have next to no playoff experience and guys who have never really won in the NBA. That's kind of scary.

I like him as much as anyone in that small role.

Can also start if there is an injury or lead a bench.

Rondo would just have to commit to that role and I would give him something like 3 years 10 million.

he had a better 3% than Jrue last year but okay

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Would you be willing to give him a small 3 year deal just to be our teams vet (guy who has been to and won championships)?

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I know he has a reputation as an a-hole, but he also has a reputation as the biggest game film junkie in the league. He could definitely teach some of the players on this team a few things.

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karma was coming at Rondo

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like a chameleon, you might say

It comes and goes, comes and goes

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And that's all I was trying to use it for. Is Rondo better than Moore? Based on what I've heard about Rondo's last season vs. what I saw of Moore I'd say no.

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They'd play a completely different role, IMO. Rondo will be a primary ball handler (which the Pels need), Moore can't really fill the role of primary ball handler, but he is a better shooter than Rondo.

I'm not sure what the point of comparing them is. I think Moore and Rondo would play well in lineups together (due to each of their strengths and weaknesses).

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You're not seriously trying to argue that Rondo is a floor spacer, are you?

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no, i'm pointing out that he shot better beyond the arc than jrue did last year.

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Would we ever consider starting Rondo, Jrue, Crawford, AD, DC? Hill off the bench?

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negative, ghostrider