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Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:56 am to Fun Bunch
Or link the podcast. I think as long as it was not something with racial undertones, they can get past it if they really want to do so.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:57 am to corndeaux
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Being in a big market and on a high profile team would help, obviously. But if he's in NYK w/ Durant and Kyrie, guess who's taking all the oxygen out of the room?
He's the best player, but he's by far the least marketable.
He is Chris bosh to lebron/wade. He just isn't as marketable as flashy or big named.
I hate the way he handled this, but it's still in our best interest to keep him unless we somehow land zion
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:12 am to touchdownjeebus
I actually think that Gayle has the perfect counter to this in the meeting: My husband tried to move the Saints to San Antonio after Katrina and was hated initially even after the Saints stayed. However, his dedication to the City and changed attitude eventually won out and now he has a statue built in his honor on the steps of the Dome. She helped Tom with that, and can do the same for AD.
AD can overcome this. To Crewz point, most of us posting here represent the minority of the fan base that has followed this in great detail. Most casual local fans see his wanting out as being due to the "losing" and "ineptitude" of the franchise, and don't blame him. They will be fine if he stays.
ETA: Seeing NolaJakes post, I do listen to the podcast regularly and would appreciate if you could expand more on, not necessarily with the specific moment, but the context of what soured him (i.e. more interested in Saints, etc). I assume you are referring a lot to the comments on podcast about rehabbing Gayle's image, which I know you have commented on a lot over past couple of months.
AD can overcome this. To Crewz point, most of us posting here represent the minority of the fan base that has followed this in great detail. Most casual local fans see his wanting out as being due to the "losing" and "ineptitude" of the franchise, and don't blame him. They will be fine if he stays.
ETA: Seeing NolaJakes post, I do listen to the podcast regularly and would appreciate if you could expand more on, not necessarily with the specific moment, but the context of what soured him (i.e. more interested in Saints, etc). I assume you are referring a lot to the comments on podcast about rehabbing Gayle's image, which I know you have commented on a lot over past couple of months.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 11:19 am
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:22 am to NOFOX
Man, I do so many of them I couldn't tell you the exact one it was. It was around the two weeks before they hired Griffin I think.
No racial undertones (THAT'S a story for another day and predates AD and the current ownership). It was stuff that made AD question if they actually want to win basketball games. Maybe the trade request then woke her up (possible!). And Griffin has done things that show things have changed. So maybe it changes his mind.
No racial undertones (THAT'S a story for another day and predates AD and the current ownership). It was stuff that made AD question if they actually want to win basketball games. Maybe the trade request then woke her up (possible!). And Griffin has done things that show things have changed. So maybe it changes his mind.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:45 am to NolaJake
If that's the case it's believable. It's been pretty well documented that the organization wasn't set up for success. However, it would seem like hiring Griff and the renewed commitment from ownership would change that.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:48 am to NolaJake
The racial stuff I’m aware of was brought up during the all star break, as Shinn apparently had a hissy fit circa 1988 over the mistaken impression that Dell Curry had married a white woman as opposed to a light skinned black woman when Curry was a member of the expansion Hornets.
I’m unaware of any racial stuff besides that, but I wouldn’t be surprised with Shinn.
I’m unaware of any racial stuff besides that, but I wouldn’t be surprised with Shinn.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:50 am to LesGeaux45
And the way it was said to AD maybe wasn't put the best way. I think that's some of it.
Agreed on the Griffin hire showing a new commitment to winning. But that will have only been the case for a month or so. Does AD believe that will continue into the future? Griffin believes it and maybe he can sell that.
Agreed on the Griffin hire showing a new commitment to winning. But that will have only been the case for a month or so. Does AD believe that will continue into the future? Griffin believes it and maybe he can sell that.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:55 am to NolaJake
There’s a chance with the guy doing the selling being Griffin, who built a title winner in Cleveland, as opposed to Dell, who I think built a combo at Taco Bell.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:58 am to Eman5805
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but, again, I don't but, again, I don't see him making that choice. I don't see him doing the smart thing, because I honestly don't think AD is all that smart.see him making that choice. I don't see him doing the smart thing, because I honestly don't think AD is all that smart.
/DeMarcus Cousins enters the chat
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:00 pm to teke184
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There’s a chance with the guy doing the selling being Griffin, who built a title winner in Cleveland, as opposed to Dell, who I think built a combo at Taco Bell.
Dell didn't have a 10th of the luxuries Griffin had and will be afforded
I think he did an underrated job with what he had
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:05 pm to Pelefraan 1
Dell did what he could with the resources at hand.
Doesn’t change that he made some really bad decisions with long term repercussions that wouldn’t have changed even if the had the San Antonio or Golden State front office staff and resources supporting him.
The two fatal transactions for us were ones where Dell fell in love with a guy and wanted him regardless of fit. Those two guys would be Tyreke, which was his big choice, plus Solo, whom he had wanted for years before Indiana let him go.
Doesn’t change that he made some really bad decisions with long term repercussions that wouldn’t have changed even if the had the San Antonio or Golden State front office staff and resources supporting him.
The two fatal transactions for us were ones where Dell fell in love with a guy and wanted him regardless of fit. Those two guys would be Tyreke, which was his big choice, plus Solo, whom he had wanted for years before Indiana let him go.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:08 pm to teke184
Why the hell did he want Solo so bad
The ridiculous Asik extension has to be top 2 blunders
Obtaining Tyreke had its repercussions, but on face value was a good acquisition
The ridiculous Asik extension has to be top 2 blunders
Obtaining Tyreke had its repercussions, but on face value was a good acquisition
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:17 pm to Pelefraan 1
Desperate for a Wing and gambled on Hill being the playoffs Hill vs the regular season Hill. Those types of gamble rarely works out and I bet he knew it too but still gamble on Hill anyways because he knew he had not shot at finding a quality wing.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:52 pm to Pelefraan 1
I don’t give him full blame on Asik.
That whole mess, plus Ajinca, were done due to AD refusing to spend heavy minutes at the 5.
Asik wouldn’t have even been our radar if he hadn’t sent out Robin Lopez as part of acquiring Tyreke.
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With regards to Tyreke himself, my main bitches are twofold.
One, he cost us valuable assets to acquire by being an RFA received in a sign and trade.
Two, he had NO range to his shot. Mix that with a young AD who was expected to be a high defense low offense big and you have spacing issues, especially if Aminu is on the court since he couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat.
That whole mess, plus Ajinca, were done due to AD refusing to spend heavy minutes at the 5.
Asik wouldn’t have even been our radar if he hadn’t sent out Robin Lopez as part of acquiring Tyreke.
Edit -
With regards to Tyreke himself, my main bitches are twofold.
One, he cost us valuable assets to acquire by being an RFA received in a sign and trade.
Two, he had NO range to his shot. Mix that with a young AD who was expected to be a high defense low offense big and you have spacing issues, especially if Aminu is on the court since he couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:25 pm to supe12sta12z
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Desperate for a Wing and gambled on Hill being the playoffs Hill vs the regular season Hill. Those types of gamble rarely works out and I bet he knew it too but still gamble on Hill anyways because he knew he had not shot at finding a quality wing.
Frustrating because Larry bird literally declined his QO which was what 2-3mil? And said see you in the dleague because he was a known slouch.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:26 pm to htran90
It only takes one idiot to sign someone to a huge contract.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:35 pm to Crewz
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but I won't pretend that if I were 25 and Christopher Nolan wanted me to spend the next two years writing a script and making a movie with him, that I wouldn't sell out my wife and family to go join him
Your wife and family?
Then you too, are a piece of shite. Holy frick dude.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:39 pm to Crewz
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Putting yourself in THAT exact scenario. Get out of your fandom. How could you possibly blame him from wanting LA over NOLA?
Thats not the point at all. Wanting one over the other aint got nothing to do with it. There is no scenario where that trade would happen. When you frame it as playing for the Lakers vs. the Pels then yeah ok.
But the options were playing for the Pels vs. playing for the Pels, blowing up a franchise, shitting on your teammates and ruining your reputation (even if temporarily) with a lot of people outside of LA.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:58 pm to Fun Bunch
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He isn’t that smart. He’s a follower. A robin. Easily manipulated
You’re convinced he won’t entertain returning but these are the exact reasons why you’re wrong
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