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re: Pels going to try with AD, Meeting Tentatively set in May
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:02 pm to GynoSandberg
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:02 pm to GynoSandberg
I get what you’re trying to say but I don’t agree with your assessment.
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:29 pm to Fun Bunch
I’m a spiteful dick. I don’t want him back. I don’t want to pay him all that money and hamstring the organization. I want the assets he can bring. He can go swing on LeBron’s nuts somewhere else.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:30 pm to BigPerm30
That first "True Teammates" with AD back in the pic on the pels twitter will be awkward like frick.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:35 pm to Chad504boy
He quit on the team mid season. How the frick can you want to be a teammate with that dick? Am I crazy? He’s a Beta when this team needs to pay an Alpha that money.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:42 pm to BigPerm30
Honestly, the only thing that matters with regards to teammates is that Jrue and Gentry mend fences with him.
Half the roster from last season isn’t coming back and most of the remaining guys have one foot out the door, one way or another, because AD and Jrue are the only guys under long term contract.
Half the roster from last season isn’t coming back and most of the remaining guys have one foot out the door, one way or another, because AD and Jrue are the only guys under long term contract.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:46 pm to teke184
if he's having a come to jesus moment then you absolutely take him back. best player in franchise history. kobe demanded a trade before or at least sent really strong signals he wanted to leave the lakers.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:00 pm to barbapapa
I don't think Griff can convince Rich Paul that NOLA is a better option for AD so much that he is willing to sign for 5 years. I think AD and Paul made the decision that AD was going to leave and it will be difficult to overcome the acceptance of that decision by he and his team.
However, if Griffin is able to pull that off, then you absolutely sign AD to a supermax (even if it is just 3 years).
However, if Griffin is able to pull that off, then you absolutely sign AD to a supermax (even if it is just 3 years).
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:01 pm to BigPerm30
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I don’t want him back. I don’t want to pay him all that money and hamstring the organization. I want the assets he can bring.
recall that chris paul, a proven winner and a top 5 player/future HOF'er in his prime returned a pouty malcontent with a bad knee, a raw tweener who couldnt shoot, salary filler and the #10 pick
this is a rare, perhaps unprecedented opportunity to turn a dollar into a dollar-fifty or more. there is opportunity cost in signing davis to the the 5 year supermax that should not be ignored. if davis had shown that he has the mental makeup to be the man who wills his team to success, then you ride that horse and forget the potential cost
but...he hasnt
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:07 pm to cgrand
Curious - What do you think the odds are that they turn the dollar into a dollar fifty?
Odds they turn it into a dollar? Odds they turn it into 50 cents or less?
I am of the belief that the package they get back will be nice, but I would personally put the odds of them getting back more in the trade than they give up to be quite low. Possible, but not probable.
Odds they turn it into a dollar? Odds they turn it into 50 cents or less?
I am of the belief that the package they get back will be nice, but I would personally put the odds of them getting back more in the trade than they give up to be quite low. Possible, but not probable.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:07 pm to BigPerm30
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I don’t want him back. I don’t want to pay him all that money and hamstring the organization. I want the assets he can bring.
This is arse backwards. A superstar on a long term deal is MUCH more valuable than one with just a year left. Eve if you have no intention of keeping AD long term, you sign him and wait a year when his trade value will be through the roof.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:16 pm to Crewz
The general argument for the NBA is that you never trade a dollar for four quarters.
Even if we did get a dollar fifty for a dollar, would we be getting that in some fifty cent pieces or a shitload of dimes?
Even if we did get a dollar fifty for a dollar, would we be getting that in some fifty cent pieces or a shitload of dimes?
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:18 pm to NOFOX
I think this team has shown how it can go from below average results to above average with minimal tweaks around an AD/Jrue core. The problem is recency bias and people seem to have the latter part of this season in their head.
In reality though, they were playing well with Elfrid. Even when he went down, they had a point differential of a team closer to .600 than .500. They just couldn't close games.
Again, could you build a team as good as current Golden State, paying AD 40 mil per year? Probably not. But news flash, you won't no matter what path you take and once KD leaves, I truly don't believe we will ever see a team THAT loaded again.
But there is no reason to believe that AD/Jrue core with a solid supporting staff can't jump OKC, Utah, Denver, Portland, etc. No reason to believe they can't be better than Houston by the 2020-21 season when CP3 is on his last leg and getting paid the same as AD.
I mean, does anybody here think PG and Russ or Dame and CJ are >>> than AD and Jrue? And do you think it would be that hard to have an equal or better supporting cast to what they had on the floor last night?
In reality though, they were playing well with Elfrid. Even when he went down, they had a point differential of a team closer to .600 than .500. They just couldn't close games.
Again, could you build a team as good as current Golden State, paying AD 40 mil per year? Probably not. But news flash, you won't no matter what path you take and once KD leaves, I truly don't believe we will ever see a team THAT loaded again.
But there is no reason to believe that AD/Jrue core with a solid supporting staff can't jump OKC, Utah, Denver, Portland, etc. No reason to believe they can't be better than Houston by the 2020-21 season when CP3 is on his last leg and getting paid the same as AD.
I mean, does anybody here think PG and Russ or Dame and CJ are >>> than AD and Jrue? And do you think it would be that hard to have an equal or better supporting cast to what they had on the floor last night?
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:30 pm to Crewz
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Again, could you build a team as good as current Golden State, paying AD 40 mil per year? Probably not. But news flash, you won't no matter what path you take and once KD leaves, I truly don't believe we will ever see a team THAT loaded again.
Exactly. That team was a quirk in the cap and a million other circumstances gone just right. KD is gone after this year and they are going to have to max Klay and then Draymond in consecutive years as that core ages.
Fans hate AD and think we cannot win with him because they are pisssed at him. People are just ready for a rebuild, but going into this season everyone is dragging the Blazers and talking about 50+ wins for the Pels.
Like you said, if you remove the Warriors then turning a team with Jrue/AD as the core into a contender isn't some unattainable dream. AD is the most direct path to contention. And if it looks like it is not working out after a year, AD is a much more valuable asset signed long term.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:33 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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We don't have to make stuff up to make it sound worse than it is.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:36 pm to NOFOX
Yeah, I don't see a LOGICAL argument against signing AD to the extension if he looks you in the eye and says he is all in. I think people are anticipating him rejecting us again and prefer to dump the girl before she dumps you again
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:40 pm to touchdownjeebus
I’m sorry but that’s hilarious!
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:41 pm to Crewz
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Curious - What do you think the odds are that they turn the dollar into a dollar fifty?
better than "usual" when trading a star
knicks have the unusual circumstance of a good chance at the #1/#2 pick and the will to trade it for a name. they'll have a nice package.
celtics package will carry additional risk
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:44 pm to cgrand
Usual is 0%, so I will grant you that. But are we talking 5%? Or 60%?
If Zion isn't a part of the package, I personally believe there is a 2% chance. The only way I could see getting more than a dollar if Zion isn't in the deal is if you do the Boston trade and the Memphis pick lands #1 in 2021. Jalen Green is gonna be a multi time MVP
If Zion isn't a part of the package, I personally believe there is a 2% chance. The only way I could see getting more than a dollar if Zion isn't in the deal is if you do the Boston trade and the Memphis pick lands #1 in 2021. Jalen Green is gonna be a multi time MVP
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:47 pm to Crewz
there's always risk, no pain/no gain.
if AD is truly "all-in" then lets ride...but there is risk also that he's not the guy
if AD is truly "all-in" then lets ride...but there is risk also that he's not the guy
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:53 pm to cgrand
So let's change this up, if Boston doesn't get in the finals, would Boston look at moving Hayward or Tatum for 2 first( not if top 2) to open up a spot for KD then get Kyrie to resign?
Then AD stays and you have Tatum, AD, Jrue?
Is that turning 1.00 into 1.50?
Then AD stays and you have Tatum, AD, Jrue?
Is that turning 1.00 into 1.50?
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