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re: New ESPN Mock Draft

Posted on 6/4/16 at 7:59 am to
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 7:59 am to
If Hield wasnt on the board at 6, I would take Skal Labisierre before this kid.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 10:09 am to
Skal shouldn't even be a first round pick. He went 20 minutes in one games without a single rebound. He might actually be the worst player in the draft.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9846 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:51 pm to
I might be the only guy. But I'd give away the 6th pick to get rid of Evans and Asik. Lets say the 6th, Evans and Asik for the two late first rounders and Covington (with the Sixers). We can take a couple of prospects, shed the dead weight and gain about 20M in cap space. I just don't think anybody in the top 10 is going to be that great. We can't wait..
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 3:08 pm to
You're a dumbass, you're giving away top 6 pick and a 16/6/5 guy just to trade away Asik? Every. Team in the NBA would be on the phone for that deal.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

I might be the only guy. But I'd give away the 6th pick to get rid of Evans and Asik. Lets say the 6th, Evans and Asik for the two late first rounders and Covington (with the Sixers).
yep, you are correct. you would be the only guy
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61620 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 3:23 pm to
Yeah, I don't know how many times it needs to be said, Asik isn't a problem you pay to get rid of until you need his cap space. If KD said he'd come if we made room for him and Bazemore, that's when you burn assets for cap space. If you have no plans better than Hield/Dunn/Murray for the cap space, then it'd be wasteful to use that asset to clear cap space.
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 3:24 pm
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 3:57 pm to
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Yeah, I don't know how many times it needs to be said, Asik isn't a problem you pay to get rid of until you need his cap space. If KD said he'd come if we made room for him and Bazemore, that's when you burn assets for cap space. If you have no plans better than Hield/Dunn/Murray for the cap space, then it'd be wasteful to use that asset to clear cap space.


Exactly unless KD says he'll come here if we get another star there us no reason to try to clear cap. This FA class is weak and not worth ruining future assets for space.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30658 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 6:42 pm to
One hell of a name right there
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 9:31 am to
I certainly don't think this team needs to give up assets just to dump him. But I would propose there could be other reasons to dump Asik besides cap space.

If he plays like he did the first 3 months this past year or starts to grouse about playing time/etc, you might be better off dumping him or just stretching him to get rid of a complete zero
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9846 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 10:22 am to
How do we dump him without any assets? If we keep waiting until he has worse value, then it will take even more.

Do people think that Evans has any value? He is a wildly inconsistent player with tremendous fit issues coming off of a major injury. He isn't that expensive, but is about to start a contract year.

I'd just love a semi do over and get away from the pieces that are hampering one another. Holiday and Evans are just a bad mix. Both are too good to be bench players. Or we have to find a way to make it work. But if we are, then why are we drafting a guard?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39064 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 12:19 pm to
because otherwise we have a point guard that can't stay on the court and a shooting guard that can't shoot. Gordon leaving will be addition by subtraction I am convinced but his shooting must be replaced, hopefully by someone with two normal knees that can at least try to play defense
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9846 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 1:23 pm to
So we would be drafting a bench player? I get replacing Gordon, but I thought we had an in house replacement in Evans. We keep all 3? We are basically in the same boat we were before. Or are people expecting Hield to be better than Gordon? Or maybe a better fit?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39064 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 2:53 pm to
Evans cannot play SG, we've seen that movie
he's got one more year, if they can't move him play him at lead guard on the bench mob and let him get his numbers

they need to draft and/or sign a two guard that can start
really too bad about BDJ he had a golden ticket to make a career
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 6:28 pm to
I think Evans/Holiday can work, at least in theory, if you move Holiday to secondary creator. The catch is if Evans will pick up the tempo and look to run the offense, rather than for his own shot.

As for the pick, both guys are expiring and not exactly looking like re-sign material. The Pels should probably draft a guard.

Or a wing.

Or a big.

¯\_(?)_/¯
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63698 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 6:47 am to
quote:

As for the pick, both guys are expiring and not exactly looking like re-sign material. The Pels should probably draft a guard.

Or a wing.

Or a big.



Really, with this team, they probably need to sign the BPA.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
33012 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 7:22 am to
quote:

Really, with this team, they probably need to sign the BPA.


Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 11:05 pm to
Bender would be an enlightened move. But nit would take some guts
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
2474 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:38 am to
quote:

I think Evans/Holiday can work, at least in theory,


It is a contract season for Evans and Holiday. I am expecting them to play great this season and stay healthy. lol..then we will get tricked into resigning them and they will both get hurt.
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
1898 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:50 am to
Evans/Holliday could work, not sure it will work. At least optimally.

Evans will once again it seems miss the offseason with Gentry. So once again we have to look forward to Evans being behind in Gentry's system. Something he already had trouble buying into mentally and physically.

It's a contract year. Which could cut a few ways. It could lead to him playing really well as a teammate or for him looking to pad his numbers because he thinks that will earn his next contract.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:39 pm to
Yeah. I don't think it's a great fit, but I'm trying to be optimistic about it.

The injury will be tough for Evans getting reps/comfort in the offense, but maybe a bit of a blessing if they have to bring him along slowly? Maybe he comes off the bench to start and realizes he can't do it all by himself? Again, spinning it rather optimistically.
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