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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein

Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:27 am to
Miles Bridges is similar to how Tyus is viewd on here.

Can't really argue the players abilities or making our roster "better".

Does the fit, money, etcc work out?

At the end of the day its a value argument. Both those guys have high value but don't really have a market at the moment.

Its the (2) best value assets we could acquire and either fit in the sytem or trade for more assets at a limited cost.

Bridges would fit great on this team if Trey was our starting Center. That's about it.

But if we can get 1-2 picks now and then flip him for another 2-3 picks while getting someone who fits just a bit better than BI? Certainly not an emd of the world situation.
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 11:30 am
Posted by BallHawk
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:28 am to
Bridges to a third team in that scenario makes more sense IMO. Wonder if the Jazz would have some interest…?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:32 am to
There is nothing comparable between Bridges and Tyus Jones in any way as far as who we acquire.
We have a good starting pg and a good backup pg. we have zero interest in replacing Jose, so stop talking about it. You are literally the only person that has this idea.

we have 4 wings on the team right now, and 2 of them suck on defense and are small.

We have to replace Naji and Dyson, and BI, all guys that play and defend the wing.

Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:35 am to
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There is nothing comparable between Bridges and Tyus Jones in any way as far as who we acquire.

Nothing similar about comparing 2 players that we don't need but are best available?

Holy shite. I can't even mention the dudes name without shite getting derailed.

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There is nothing comparable between Bridges and Tyus Jones in any way as far as who we acquire.


I said "how they are viewed".

Meaning not highly regarded but can actually help the team.

frick off.
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 11:47 am
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:48 am to
Any sign and trade hard caps is at the first apron.

That may limit our moves if we aren’t finished dealing.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:49 am to
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Any sign and trade hard caps is at the first apron.

That may limit our moves if we aren’t finished dealing.

Our ownership hard caps us at the tax line, so we should be good
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:49 am to
True, but I mean we are completely stuck at that point if we get in a pinch.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:51 am to
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Any sign and trade hard caps is at the first apron.

That may limit our moves if we aren’t finished dealing.


Yes this is why no deal has been completed yet until all that is worked out.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:54 am to
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True, but I mean we are completely stuck at that point if we get in a pinch


What do you consider a pinch?

We will have CJ's salary to move if we have to next offseason.

This was also my exact point above meaning if you take in a Bridges or ____ then you can ship them out for assets if you get in that pinch.
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:57 am to
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This was also my exact point above meaning if you take in a Bridges or ____ then you can ship them out for assets if you get in that pinch.
Not for 6 months.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:58 am to
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I think the Hornets have been quietly making their offers to us for BI, as they have been wanting him, and I’d bet BI would like to go back home so they feel confident they will extend him.


After the draft, where does Ingram fit with the Hornets?

They have their forwards of the future with Salaun and Miller. They still might resign Bridges. Can Ingram play with Miller?

I would think the Hornets would be targeting smaller quick guards to pair with Ball. Alvarado would be an awesome player for them and could start..
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:02 pm to
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Not for 6 months.


Correct and we wouldn't we have to pay it for longer.
This post was edited on 7/5/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:02 pm to
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Nothing similar about comparing 2 players that we don't need but are best available?


We’re losing 3 wing players dumbass. They need to be replaced. Bridges plays the wing, and he just had a season with numbers across the board very similar to BI.

We don’t need backup PG dumbass. We have one.

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I said "how they are viewed".


You’re the only one viewing Tyus Jones.
No one else has a single thought about him.


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Holy shite. I can't even mention the dudes name without shite getting derailed.


Correct. Stop talking about him.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:04 pm to
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After the draft, where does Ingram fit with the Hornets? They have their forwards of the future with Salaun and Miller. They still might resign Bridges. Can Ingram play with Miller?


I think Miller especially with his game is really flexible- he could probably play the 2 or 3 sort of like Herb. BI is mostly a 3 but in certain situations could slide down to 4. Again in todays NBA, its easy for players to play different positions. Salaun is a project and highly doubt he starts.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:12 pm to
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Holy shite. I can't even mention the dudes name without shite getting derailed.
Correct. Stop talking about him.

Because you say so? He was legt 1 of 3 free agents we were interested in?

The comment you are blowing up on was me saying "The (2) top free agents Bridges and Tyus aren't viewed highly on here but both can help the team.

You are literally whining about me stating that you dont like him. Pussy.
Posted by brmark70816
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:14 pm to
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think Miller especially with his game is really flexible- he could probably play the 2 or 3 sort of like Herb.


I believe they want Miller at the 3, but playing some 4. They project him like Paul George, so I guess he can play some 2. But I honestly see Ball as their 2 (but the primary distributor). Williams can play 2-5.

It seems to come down to if they resign Bridges. I would think they have to, since they have so much cap space. Otherwise where do they spend it? I just don't know about the fit of Miller, Ingram and Ball.

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Salaun is a project and highly doubt he starts.


No doubt. But I think he plays a lot. High ceiling kid. The team isn't trying to compete (I don't think), so they are focused on development. Do they take in Ingram just for asset collection to flip later?
Posted by duyp
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:19 pm to
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I actually want Tyus jones too. Who wouldn’t want a guy like that? I love Jose but I trust Tyus more running the offense.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:22 pm to
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I actually want Tyus jones too. Who wouldn’t want a guy like that? I love Jose but I trust Tyus more running the offense.


Depends on how much he wants to get paid honestly. Hes a great backup pg but he wont cheap. We also have a decent backup pg who is pretty cheap. I just don’t think he’s a need necessarily.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:26 pm to
Pretty much.

As mentioned earlier, the top priorities in order are starting center, backup center, backup PF, backup point.

Filling those first three certainly is more important than upgrading from GTA.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:37 pm to
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Depends on how much he wants to get paid honestly. Hes a great backup pg but he wont cheap. We also have a decent backup pg who is pretty cheap. I just don’t think he’s a need necessarily


100% agree.

Now if Hawk is legit and/or if CJ takes a step back next year then Tyus + Murray + Hawk would be a powerful trio going forward.

Worst case scenario is that you trade Tyus for assets next year because he has value.

Best case scenario is Hawk+ Tyus play so well that it make it an easy decision to move CJs contract.
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