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re: How many players in the league would you trade Ingram for?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:36 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:36 pm to Chad504boy
Not many. Sometimes there's added value when you watch a guy become one of those listed above. I'd keep BI over most. Only if we're somehow getting The Greek Freak, Leonard, PG, Luka, The Joker or Ja I would let him go.
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:44 pm to Chad504boy
In no specific order:
Morant
Luka
Harden, reluctantly because I hate his game
AD
Curry
Booker, only because Booker and Zion together could be unstoppable offensively
Kawhi
Lillard
Kemba
Giannis
Morant
Luka
Harden, reluctantly because I hate his game
AD
Curry
Booker, only because Booker and Zion together could be unstoppable offensively
Kawhi
Lillard
Kemba
Giannis
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:16 pm to purplepylon
While you all are compiling your trade candidates unless your Steph Curry or Kobe Bryant the best player on the champion team are all forwards. Only guard currently that has capability currently is Luca.
2019 Toronto Raptors – Kawhi Leonard (SF)
2018 Golden State Warriors – Kevin Durant (SF)
2017 Golden State Warriors – Kevin Durant (SF)
2016 Cleveland Cavaliers – LeBron James (SF)
2015 Golden State Warriors – Steph Curry (PG)
2014 San Antonio Spurs – Kawhi Leonard (SF)
2013 Miami Heat – LeBron James (SF)
2012 Miami Heat – LeBron James (SF)
2011 Dallas Mavericks – Dirk Nowitski (PF)
2010 Los Angeles Lakers – Kobe Bryant (SG)
2009 Los Angeles Lakers – Kobe Bryant (SG)
2019 Toronto Raptors – Kawhi Leonard (SF)
2018 Golden State Warriors – Kevin Durant (SF)
2017 Golden State Warriors – Kevin Durant (SF)
2016 Cleveland Cavaliers – LeBron James (SF)
2015 Golden State Warriors – Steph Curry (PG)
2014 San Antonio Spurs – Kawhi Leonard (SF)
2013 Miami Heat – LeBron James (SF)
2012 Miami Heat – LeBron James (SF)
2011 Dallas Mavericks – Dirk Nowitski (PF)
2010 Los Angeles Lakers – Kobe Bryant (SG)
2009 Los Angeles Lakers – Kobe Bryant (SG)
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:17 pm to Toula
quote:WTF
Factoring contracts, the list is probably 40 deep.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:18 pm to purplepylon
quote:He's the one I was thinking that I don't think had been posted on page 1.
Booker
Booker is legit.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:28 pm to purplepylon
quote:
Morant
Luka
Harden, reluctantly because I hate his game
AD
Curry
Booker, only because Booker and Zion together could be unstoppable offensively
Kawhi
Lillard
Kemba
Giannis
Replace Kemba with Klay and I’d agree.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:30 pm to purplepylon
Kemba? Hell nah
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:31 pm to shel311
Not a fan of Booker. Great stats, horrible defender. King of empty stats.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:44 pm to Chad504boy
LeBron
Leonard
AD
Luka
Giannis
Steph
Klay
Tatum
Butler
Ja
Dame
Durant
Trae
Booker
Donovan Mitchell
Jokic
Embiid
Siamkam
Butler
And about 5 other dudes
Leonard
AD
Luka
Giannis
Steph
Klay
Tatum
Butler
Ja
Dame
Durant
Trae
Booker
Donovan Mitchell
Jokic
Embiid
Siamkam
Butler
And about 5 other dudes
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:58 pm to CocoLoco
quote:Brandon Ingram can be described similarly.
Not a fan of Booker. Great stats, horrible defender. King of empty stats.
BI is a below avg defender, and his stats aren't exactly leading to big winning this season...13 game losing streak and all.
He's been better than Ingram this season, and at least for now his team has a better record while his supporting cast isn't as good as BI right now.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:59 pm to tibebecolston
That list, plus:
KAT
Simmons
Kyrie
Ayton
Collins
Kemba
Shia
Fox
So it’s closer to 30 than 40. The first or 2nd year guys are just because of the cheap deal.
KAT
Simmons
Kyrie
Ayton
Collins
Kemba
Shia
Fox
So it’s closer to 30 than 40. The first or 2nd year guys are just because of the cheap deal.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:32 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
Kemba? Hell nah
I know why the hell Kemba? He’s like 30 now and small. He will be worthless in 4 years. Same for LeBron, Butler, to old. If I’m trading BI, the player has to be no older than mid 20’s.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:54 pm to Toula
I’m not trading BI for any big man. Wings hold way more value. Kemba literally makes no sense.
30 players over Ingram is ridiculous. Good thing you aren’t a GM
30 players over Ingram is ridiculous. Good thing you aren’t a GM
Posted on 1/29/20 at 11:38 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
There's no way that Kawhi's knees last five more years. Zero chance.
I’d take that bet. Another cold take from GOP Tiger. And even if they didn’t, I’d rather 3 definite years of Kawhi at an elite level right now than maybe a chance BI gets to be that good
Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:20 am to Upperdecker
quote:
Another cold take from GOP Tiger.
Hey, on this website, you get what you pay for. If you want expert commentary, maybe subscribe to The Athletic or something.
I started posting here a lot more after the lottery, and I've been honest that I am not a basketball expert -- that I don't understand the sport as well as I'd like. Part of my posting so much here is that my bad takes get called out, and I learn.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 4:32 am to CocoLoco
quote:
Not a fan of Booker. Great stats, horrible defender. King of empty stats.
That might have been true prior to this season, but there honestly isn’t much gap between Ingram and Booker anymore defensively and Booker has welcomed the challenge of guarding opposing teams best players. And in that context his individual defensive numbers like DFG% are slightly better than Ingram almost across the board. Ingram has a 113 defensive rating, Booker 110. Things actually get even stronger for Booker if we just narrow it down to the post 13 game losing streak like some might think to do.
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 4:33 am
Posted on 1/30/20 at 6:01 am to Bronc
Gotta be lots of trolls in here.
BI is only 22 with elite size. He shoots with a very high % from 3 and the stripe. He may never be All NBA D but he has often been asked to play out of position on D this year...he needs more time to put on weight and strength to really be able to do that. With his size and ability, he can easily be a capable defender and probably overlooked at the moment, he has versatility to guard multiple positions better than most.
He looks like he could be the best #2 on any team within 3 years and possibly a #1 for more than half the teams. Once this team gels, I think his true value will shine.
BI is only 22 with elite size. He shoots with a very high % from 3 and the stripe. He may never be All NBA D but he has often been asked to play out of position on D this year...he needs more time to put on weight and strength to really be able to do that. With his size and ability, he can easily be a capable defender and probably overlooked at the moment, he has versatility to guard multiple positions better than most.
He looks like he could be the best #2 on any team within 3 years and possibly a #1 for more than half the teams. Once this team gels, I think his true value will shine.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:41 am to Pistol44
quote:
Only guard currently that has capability currently is Luca.
Is Luka really a guard in your opinion? He's as much of a guard as LeBron is.
Posted on 1/30/20 at 7:43 am to Toula
quote:
Ayton
quote:
Collins
quote:
Kemba
ETA: in what world would someone have Tatum over Ingram at this point in time? I understand that Tatum was valued over Ingram in the offseason because of injury concerns, but now that we've seen that Ingram is fine, I don't know how you can compare the two and say that Tatum is better.
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 7:46 am
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