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re: Bill Simmons says a reliable source told him Zion won't be on the Pelicans come Thursday

Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:41 am to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:41 am to
Trading Zion in the division seems like a non starter, but they'd be pairing him with Harden so it seems destined to fail.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6040 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:41 am to
I actually like that deal...could flip Rozier to another team (Philly or Toronto makes sense)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464767 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:45 am to
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Hard pass.


Getting more than a good player, great young talent (on a full rookie deal) and 2 unprotected 1sts isn't going to be easy unless he has a couple years of MVP-level play (60+ games/year)
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Trading Zion in the division seems like a non starter,
If you're that concerned Zion will burn you, you shouldn't trade him.


FWIW, I do not want to trade Zion, was just pointing out if we decide to trade Zion, that is the most realistic one I've seen that I like the most for us.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11137 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Would you roll with Scoot if I told you he's going to hav 2 concussions, an ankle injury and a nasal fracture in the same timeframe?



Yes. On a normal player, that is less than a half a season of injuries all together. Heck, most players wouldn't miss more than a week with a broken nose. Zion's gout flares up, he'll be missing months at a time.

I love that at this point we are all supposed to treat Zion's injuries as common and freakish at the same time, like it happens to all players. Just bad luck..
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17181 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:59 am to
Not a bad deal, but we would have to dump Rozier somewhere as we would have zero use for him and his 25 million contract.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25693 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:13 am to
I mean yeah that's still a bottom of the barrel trade. I'm not a huge scoot believer like most though. The brklyn 1sts would he huge.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8700 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Not a bad deal, but we would have to dump Rozier somewhere as we would have zero use for him and his 25 million contract.


We're going to have to take back salary in any Zion deal right? I think you can definitely move Rozier if you go looking for another wing or big.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103094 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:19 am to
Rozier doesn’t have a ton of value which is why he was mentioned as part of a Westbrook trade last year.

If we are taking a big contract that could be movable, take Heyward instead.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8700 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:25 am to
Does Hayward have a ton of value? I guess his contract is expiring, but he’s probably a worse player on a larger deal than Rozier

I think either one would probably help us off the bench this season
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112610 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Rozier doesn’t have a ton of value which is why he was mentioned as part of a Westbrook trade last year.

If we are taking a big contract that could be movable, take Heyward instead.

Yea, Rozier has 2 years left and Hayward 1, so assuming 1 of those 2 would be a salary match in a Pels trade, the Pels should only do the deal if they're getting the Hayward expiring back and it should be a no go otherwise IMO.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103094 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:27 am to
Depends on how much help we think Rozier would be.

Eating a larger contract this season means possibly flipping it for other pieces later whereas taking on Rozier means we are likely stuck with him if we don’t really want him.

After the whole Bledsoe situation, I don’t really want Rozier here if he doesn’t want to be here and he isn’t in our plans.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:41 pm to
To be fair I think Rozier is much better defender and scorer than Bledsoe was when he got him. Plus there are teams that were rumored to like him (like phoenix) so I could see him being flipped down the line.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103094 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

like phoenix


Unless we get Ayton for Rozier, I don’t see them having much to offer.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7711 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:06 pm to
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CHA: #4, Jaylen Green, Kira Lewis NO: #2, Rozier, 1st rounders (BRK 24 and 26) HOU: Zion (assumes they sign Harden)

Hard pass.



I mean that's a hell of a lot better than most of the shitty Zion trades.

Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:20 pm to
Why would Charlotte do that?
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
1707 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Why would Charlotte do that?


They get Jaylen Green for dropping down two spots. If they aren’t going to take Scoot anyway, one could argue Green as the better prospect over Miller. Much less the possibility for both, or for Green and Cam etc.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15766 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:36 pm to
I would do any deal involving #2 and Zion. I'm ready to move on.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:37 pm to
I honestly dont think hornets want him. I think we dont do deal with hornets, they take miller. Then real negotiations begin with Portland. I think blazers really want Zion.
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
12800 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:38 pm to
Doubt anything major happens.
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