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re: BI - Bone Contusion, will be reevaluated in...you guessed it
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:13 pm to Pelisaints
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:13 pm to Pelisaints
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Zion gonna show he's really turned a corner and keep us afloat
Gonna come down to whether someone on our shitty bench can reproduce BI's points
God help us if willie thinks that's Naji
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:57 pm to jmcwhrter
the pels bench is many things, "shitty" is not one
Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:05 pm to Fun Bunch
That's about the best Pels could have expected. Bone on bone is super painful and you can expect a lot of swelling. Pels emphasis should be improving defense (paint) and ball handling.
Paint defense was a sieve. First test after a light lunch schedule against a big front line didn't look good. Banchero, Isaac, and the Wagner boys dominated the paint. Trying to plug the sieve subsequently killed the perimeter D leading to a Magic 3pt fest. The ball-handling after jumping out to a good start in the first, was bad and turned the tide and it was a wrap after that, compounded by the injury.
Miami plays similarly to the Pels, with a lot of small ball stuff. Pels match up better and if they can clean up turnovers they have good odds to win. I'm not sure what Pels can do about paint defense ... Where's Karlo?
Paint defense was a sieve. First test after a light lunch schedule against a big front line didn't look good. Banchero, Isaac, and the Wagner boys dominated the paint. Trying to plug the sieve subsequently killed the perimeter D leading to a Magic 3pt fest. The ball-handling after jumping out to a good start in the first, was bad and turned the tide and it was a wrap after that, compounded by the injury.
Miami plays similarly to the Pels, with a lot of small ball stuff. Pels match up better and if they can clean up turnovers they have good odds to win. I'm not sure what Pels can do about paint defense ... Where's Karlo?
Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:13 pm to jmcwhrter
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our shitty bench
this is an example of how in America i can respect your right to have an opinion but i don't have to respect your opinion because its 100% incorrect
Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:23 pm to WaltWhite504
Well this is where the new medical team earns its keep. They've done well this year tbh.
Losing BI in the interim hurts, no doubt, but THIS is where those that say trade BI haters get to see what it looks like without him.
Time to rely on Trey in the starting lineup and Hawk off the bench. Don't be surprised if this is a silver lining...
Losing BI in the interim hurts, no doubt, but THIS is where those that say trade BI haters get to see what it looks like without him.
Time to rely on Trey in the starting lineup and Hawk off the bench. Don't be surprised if this is a silver lining...
Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:35 pm to WaltWhite504
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this is an example of how in America i can respect your right to have an opinion but i don't have to respect your opinion because its 100% incorrect
Assuming Trey will be starting..
You guys are awfully confident in Jose, Naji, Nance, and the two shooters that are glued to the bench
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:21 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:If we're still trotting out the corpse of Val, it probably won't go as well as I think it can lol.
Now we get to see full Zion commitment and more trey in the starting lineup.
It's shel311's wet dream come true.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:37 pm to jmcwhrter
quote:Jose and Naji have the best on/off on the team.
Assuming Trey will be starting..
You guys are awfully confident in Jose, Naji, Nance, and the two shooters that are glued to the bench
It's silly to call the bench shitty.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:46 pm to shel311
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silly to call the bench shitty.
It's not shitty, but it isn't otherworldly depth anymore with Dyson out and Trey going to the starting unit
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:46 pm to shel311
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It's silly to call the bench shitty.
And I'm going to say it again even though people don't seem to like it. Willie choosing defense over shooters, even though it goes against what most of us here think is right, including myself, has worked well this season. There is often more than one way to skin a cat, and in this case Willie's way has proven effective.
Most people here are hoping for Hawkins, they're probably going to get more Naji and Jose and Dyson when he returns. In theory and practice, doubling down on Point Zion demands more shooting. But it's probably not going to happen and the history of this season says its going to be ok. Why? Because Zion has so much gravity that his teammates are wide arse open and Naji is shooting 38% from 3 and Jose is shooting 37% this year.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 3:13 pm to TigerinATL
Right. The big change now is that, when Zion is out, we depend much more on CJ and Jonas for shot creation -- which we know works.
Nothing else really needs to change.
Nothing else really needs to change.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 3:14 pm to Ijuschill1
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but THIS is where those that say trade BI haters get to see what it looks like without him.
Is anyone saying they should trade him and get nothing in return?
Posted on 3/22/24 at 3:22 pm to Epic Cajun
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Is anyone saying they should trade him and get nothing in return?
Essentially, or at least a clear downgrade in talent. Most are looking to trade a quarter for dimes and nickels. Not that they wouldn't do a quarter for quarter swap if a cheaper/better fitting quarter were available. They are just so concerned about locking into this core and not being able to afford a quality bench that they choose flexibility over high end talent in return.
That's not the only option though. As much as I think CJ has done for this team, with his age and contract he has always seemed like the logical choice to move to me when money gets tight. With Trey and Hawkins, his role will be a lot easier to replace long term.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 3/22/24 at 3:25 pm to Fun Bunch
Did you see the injury asshat?
We're lucky his knee isnt shredded.
We're lucky his knee isnt shredded.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:05 pm to TigerinATL
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And I'm going to say it again even though people don't seem to like it. Willie choosing defense over shooters, even though it goes against what most of us here think is right, including myself, has worked well this season. There is often more than one way to skin a cat, and in this case Willie's way has proven effective.
In the playoffs the refs will try to screw over a small market Pels team. The only way to neutralize the refs is great perimeter shooting.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:35 pm to Fun Bunch
Last year a bruised toe kept BI out for over 2 months.. Just saying
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:57 pm to whatiknowsofar
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it isn't otherworldly depth anymore with Dyson out
there's not many teams that can sustain their "depth" when one of their starters and key bench players goes down, at the same time.... just sayin'
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:17 pm to jmcwhrter
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You guys are awfully confident in Jose, Naji, Nance, and the two shooters that are glued to the bench
Naji and Jose say stop trippin.
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Christian Clark @cclark_13
Final: Pelicans 111, Heat 88
CJ McCollum scores 30 points. He made six 3s.
Jose with 17 points. Naji with 13 points. Huge minutes off the bench.
Zion scores 4 points. Great team win. New Orleans wins in Miami for first time since Dec. 23, 2017.
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