- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: 2021 NBA Trade thread BREAKING: Bagley to Pistons in 4 team deal
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:50 am to eyeran
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:50 am to eyeran
quote:
what are we willing to give up for 2 seasons of Mccollum?
I'd give up Hart/Jax/Sato/protected 1st for CJ. To get Portland to do a trade now you probably have to throw in a 2nd 1st.
On top of that, adding CJ to the mix makes it more likely you make the playoffs and lose your 2022 1st. So trading for him now quite possibly costs you 3 1sts to get him vs. missing the playoffs and waiting for the offseason and maybe only having to give up 1 1st.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 10:51 am
4
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:53 am to TigerinATL
I'll keep saying it and I still mean it. I'm not in favor of any move (barring for some REALLY high level player) that gives up future draft pick assets right now.
We already did for Graham and Jonas, and I'd rather just let this play out and see what happens, and see what opportunities present themselves this offseason.
We already did for Graham and Jonas, and I'd rather just let this play out and see what happens, and see what opportunities present themselves this offseason.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:53 am to TigerinATL
I think the best or main reason to not at least make a play at McCollum is if you think you can get a better player in the offseason.
But kinda like the Kyle Lowry situation, you better have your Intel in line and not miss.
But kinda like the Kyle Lowry situation, you better have your Intel in line and not miss.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/31/22 at 10:55 am to NOSHAU
quote:
If I recall correctly, I think the Pels control the decision next year. It is the last year of the contract that is a "mutual option."
This is correct and I was wrong. Sorry about that.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:00 am to shel311
The 24-25 season is likely the true make or break season.
Final year of BI's contract, 2nd year of Zion's new contract.
That gives us basically three years to progressively get better and be a true contender(which we better be if we have any hope) that year with an upside future or there's a lot of reason for both BI and Zion to make exit plans.
Thats partly why I am not really wanting to make a major move at the deadline that will have reverberations so far out(unless it is some homerun play no one saw coming that brings back a prime aged guard that fits well). Especially when a similar deal is likely waiting in the offseason where we have a better barometer of everything...and likely better assets to work with than had we made an aggressive deadline trade.
Final year of BI's contract, 2nd year of Zion's new contract.
That gives us basically three years to progressively get better and be a true contender(which we better be if we have any hope) that year with an upside future or there's a lot of reason for both BI and Zion to make exit plans.
Thats partly why I am not really wanting to make a major move at the deadline that will have reverberations so far out(unless it is some homerun play no one saw coming that brings back a prime aged guard that fits well). Especially when a similar deal is likely waiting in the offseason where we have a better barometer of everything...and likely better assets to work with than had we made an aggressive deadline trade.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:09 am to TigerinATL
quote:
I'd give up Hart/Jax/Sato/protected 1st for CJ. To get Portland to do a trade now you probably have to throw in a 2nd 1st.
On top of that, adding CJ to the mix makes it more likely you make the playoffs and lose your 2022 1st. So trading for him now quite possibly costs you 3 1sts to get him vs. missing the playoffs and waiting for the offseason and maybe only having to give up 1 1st.
One more hypothetical to throw in here: I think we just about have to finish ahead of the Lakers to have any chance of pushing them down to the #10 or lower slot in order to get their draft pick. It still doesn't make it likely that we get the pick, but finishing ahead of the Lakers as opposed to behind them probably raises the odds from something like 10% up to 30%.
The Lakers would currently be in the #12 slot, and we'd only have a 7.2% chance of getting that pick if the season ended today (their top-4 lottery odds) -- and that's only if they don't win in the play-in to make the actual playoffs. Besides us, the only team that I think is likely to move up past the Lakers in the standings is the Knicks, but if both us us move past the Lakers, that could push them down to #10, where our odds of getting the pick are 80%.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:10 am to Bronc
LINK
Oof
Makes Dinwiddie making NAW look like his training bag in the offseason sting even more.
But looks like we might have dodged another bullet after trying to overpay him and Hardaway this offseason. Both looking like shells of themselves.
quote:
“The Wizards want to move Dinwiddie because he looks like a shell of his former self and his teammates don’t want him there.”
- @KevinOConnorNBA on Spencer Dinwiddie
Oof
Makes Dinwiddie making NAW look like his training bag in the offseason sting even more.
But looks like we might have dodged another bullet after trying to overpay him and Hardaway this offseason. Both looking like shells of themselves.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 11:11 am
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:14 am to Bronc
If teammates dont want you there thats a HUGEEEEE RED FLAG.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:17 am to Bronc
I'm to the point of where I have no idea what I want us to do at the deadline. Part of me wants to make a deal and part of me wants to just let it ride.
I dont think we have that much time with Zion. But I am legit nervous that Zion will demand a trade a year after signing his extension if we dont seriously compete (4-5 seed ish).
quote:
The 24-25 season is likely the true make or break season.
Final year of BI's contract, 2nd year of Zion's new contract.
I dont think we have that much time with Zion. But I am legit nervous that Zion will demand a trade a year after signing his extension if we dont seriously compete (4-5 seed ish).
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:19 am to 50_Tiger
Low key, I think all the pieces are falling into place where Beal is going to walk in FA...And if Wiz had any inkling of foresight they would make him the secret blockbuster trade piece on the market right not(which they dont and wont).
Let me preface that no way he comes here, and I know he legitimately places non-NBA things like family stability and his children having a stable school journey as priority, but I simply cant see how he signs back up for more of this with Washington?...Unless he really believes his best days are behind him and he wants one last big bag
Let me preface that no way he comes here, and I know he legitimately places non-NBA things like family stability and his children having a stable school journey as priority, but I simply cant see how he signs back up for more of this with Washington?...Unless he really believes his best days are behind him and he wants one last big bag
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:40 am to Pelicans15
quote:Don't hold your breathe.
If we aren't "contending" in two seasons, with healthy zion and even better BI.. then I don't know.
By contending I mean WCF. Maybe Finals.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:18 pm to Bronc
Sato
Temple
Didi
For
Dinwiddie
Bertans
2022 1st
2028 1st
Call it in
Temple
Didi
For
Dinwiddie
Bertans
2022 1st
2028 1st
Call it in
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:22 pm to Bronc
quote:If he signs the super max, it'll immediately become a top 3 ish worst contract in the NBA.
Low key, I think all the pieces are falling into place where Beal is going to walk in FA...And if Wiz had any inkling of foresight they would make him the secret blockbuster trade piece on the market right not(which they dont and wont).
The Wizards should not be remotely considering it IMO.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:59 pm to shel311
I think it is pretty apparent at this point that while Beal is a good player, I really don't think he is an elite or #1 player on a team.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:08 pm to TigerinATL
Woj:
Utah was supposedly considering trading him. This is definitely a blow for them.
quote:
ESPN Sources: Utah Jazz F Joe Ingles has suffered a season-ending torn left ACL. Ingles, 34, was found to have no other structural damage in his left knee.
Utah was supposedly considering trading him. This is definitely a blow for them.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:31 pm to GOP_Tiger
That is a big time ouch for them.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:36 pm to GOP_Tiger
Sucks but that is probably it for his career TBH.
Was already on a disappointing decline this season, is 34, a FA.
Could maybe see a vet team with the space throwing him a minimum, or a team hit with injuries taking a flyer on him in-season next year.
But that sort of feels like his best case scenario now.
Was already on a disappointing decline this season, is 34, a FA.
Could maybe see a vet team with the space throwing him a minimum, or a team hit with injuries taking a flyer on him in-season next year.
But that sort of feels like his best case scenario now.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:46 pm to Bronc
They could get a great shooter in Sato for a first ... call them up
Posted on 1/31/22 at 3:41 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
Way too much for CJ. Pass.
That is a wild price for CJ. IF he really costs 2 firsts + Hart + prospect, I would much rather throw some seconds at the Knicks for Kemba.
Posted on 1/31/22 at 3:43 pm to Bronc
quote:
You are probably correct, which is why Gayle needed to either fire or ensure Griff his job is 100% safe through his contract.
I definitely is not safe. But Griff's replacement is sitting right next to him and is not going to approve a shitty short term trade.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 3:47 pm
Page 31 of 75
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News