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re: Which band has most impressive music catalogue: Tool or Metallica

Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:03 am to
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:03 am to
nothing else matters.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:29 am to
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metallica was one of the few bands that gave me the "holy shite!" reaction when i first heard 'em.

same here. I remember a few metal heads sporting the early 80's style of Kill em All pins on their denim jackets but I didn't really listen to them till Master was released. If metal heads thought they were cool it wasn't for me then. They use to be featured in Thrasher Magazine a good bit b/c of the San Fran connection with the magazine and Zorlac skateboards. We ended up buying the cassette. That was that holy shite moment of thinking this is what west cost punk attitude should be musically. Shortly thereafter, went and picked up Kill em All and Ride the Lightning. We wore those 3 out. I couldnt' get into Justice or anything else after that. Maybe by then their coolness to me had worn off.

I saw the Justice tour but mainly went because The Cult was opening and hung out to watch Metallica. Incredible show.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 9:30 am
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:34 am to
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They use to be featured in Thrasher Magazine a good bit b/c of the San Fran connection with the magazine and Zorlac skateboards.


Thrasher and Phelps in particuar still hold them in high regard.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:36 am to
I don't mind odd time signatures. But bragging that a band needs to do math formulas to play their songs makes me want to go door to door and punch every one of their fans in the face. Nothing irritates me more than pop music fans bragging about the complexity of the band they like. If we took all of the music in the world ever made and put it on a scale 1-10, the most complex pop song ever made would be, maybe, a 3. Complex rock bands have more in common with the Buddy Holly than Stravinsky. Your music ain't THAT complex. Drug addicted teenagers with no formal music training can play it.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:58 am to


Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:12 am to
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Drug addicted teenagers with no formal music training can play it.



Which would imply that those teenagers were very talented in spite of drug addiction. Kudos to them!
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:56 am to
Tool
Posted by Coach Guidry
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:19 am to
tool gets old after 8 minutes.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:25 am to
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tool gets old after 8 minutes.



You must've meant to say Tool starts to get old after being played on repeat for 6 months straight, 3 months of that time just spent listening to Rosetta Stoned on repeat every single day.

If that's what you meant, then I agree with you.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:54 am to
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tool, love them or hate them, writes poetry put to music


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Rosetta Stoned

A song about a deadhead on acid that gets abducted by aliens. .

STRAPPED DOWN MY BED. FEET COLD AND EYES RED.
I'M OUT MY HEAD. AM I ALIVE, AM I DEAD?
CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY SAID.
GOD DAMN. shite THE BED!!



Move over Alice Walker!

This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 11:54 am
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:06 pm to
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sorry that 40 year olds didn't want to keep playing thrash


Its not that....its that its fricking garbage.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:08 pm to
STRAPPED DOWN MY BED,
FEET COLD AND EYES RED.
I'M OUT MY HEAD. AM I ALIVE, AM I DEAD?
SUNKIST AND SUDAFED,
GYROSCOPES AND INFRARED,
WON'T HELP THE BRAIN DEAD,
CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY SAID.
GOD DAMN. shite THE BED!!
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:17 pm to
Worst Tool song ever!



Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Worst Tool song ever!



that is just a terrible attempt to troll. You know better than to believe what you just posted...
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:08 pm to
I've been a Tool fan for maybe 15ish years now. Started with Undertow, then Aenima, Lateralus, 10k.

I honestly have mixed feelings on 10k. Vicarious sounds like a Lateralus B-side and honestly I don't even know if Tool would deny that. I feel like 10000 days is the first time Tool starting copping their early work. That being said, its still a great album with some great tracks and keeping the pace that they kept is a pretty tall order.

Jambi is my favorite track on 10000 days, but I rarely have the urge to listen to that record. Aenima/Lateralus are tied for the best depending on which day you talk to me.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:18 pm to
so you're telling me that, as a long time Tool fan, you believe that Rosetta Stoned is nothing special? You believe that Rosetta Stoned is a copy of Tool's earlier work?


I'm not sure how to respond to that...

Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:27 pm to
Listen...if a band that I like puts out an overall shitty album, I'm not going to like that album just because it was created by a band that I have liked in the past.

Overall, the album just isn't that great.

I think over time you'll realize this. Some bands get better with time. Some bands plateau and disappear. Some bands actually succeed at putting out worse and worse material over time because people always hold out hope the next album with be the band's return to greatness.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:46 pm to
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I think over time you'll realize this


I've had over 6 years to think about 10,000 Days...

quote:

Some bands get better with time


I believe Tool's best work to date is within 10,000 Days...

quote:

Some bands plateau and disappear


Tool did not plateau or regress on 10,000 Days

quote:

Some bands actually succeed at putting out worse and worse material over time because people always hold out hope the next album with be the band's return to greatness.


I think you're describing Metallica, right? You are most definitely not describing Tool...
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71211 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:21 pm to
I prefer metallica's music, but tool's music is more technically challenging, especially the bass and drum parts.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:46 pm to
Why didn't you just title this thread "I Love Tool?" You have criticized anyone who has said they prefer Metallica to Tool. It's not like you have been tolerant of any opinion that disagrees with you.

That being said, Metallica's output from 1983 through 1991 is much more appealing, based on album sales and air play, and influential than anything that Tool has ever done since its first album was released in 1993. Whether you like it or not, one of the reasons for making music is to have it appreciated by an audience. And Metallica's music is appreciated by a much larger audience than Tool's.
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