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re: Which band has most impressive music catalogue: Tool or Metallica

Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:44 pm to
If Metallica is the Zeppelin of their time, Tool is the Pink Floyd of their time...


So question is, who is better? Zeppelin or Pink Floyd?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:47 pm to
metallica is hard rock, former metal band

tool is a progressive art-rock, hard rock band

Aenima has more "artistic" merit to it than anything metallica has ever put out
Posted by Come2Conquer
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:48 pm to
I see people including albums post-"...And Justice" as part of Metallica's "good" portion of their career.

I...I just...
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:49 pm to
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If Metallica is the Zeppelin of their time, Tool is the Pink Floyd of their time


Very stupid comparsion on both ends
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:50 pm to
I would argue that Rosetta Stoned is the culmination of their work thus far and that one song is greater than anything Metallica has done, including all time greats like One, Battery, Sanitarium, etc.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:51 pm to
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Aenima has more "artistic" merit to it than anything metallica has ever put out



So true.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

I would argue that Rosetta Stoned is the culmination of their work thus far and that one song is greater than anything Metallica has done, including all time greats like One, Battery, Sanitarium, etc.



tool, love them or hate them, writes poetry put to music.

I don't think anyone intelligent could argue that
Posted by Come2Conquer
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

I would argue that Rosetta Stoned is the culmination of their work thus far and that one song is greater than anything Metallica has done, including all time greats like One, Battery, Sanitarium, etc.


The bigger issue is that it's like comparing apples to oranges.

Metallica's largest contribution (pre-"Black" album) was to solidify thrash metal as a genre. Sure, some of their songs were political/introspective in nature, but as 1 16-year old kid listening to "Master of Puppets", there was no other intent on my part other than to enjoy the music and not get too philosophical about the lyrics.

Like foot massages & fricking, I don't think Metallica and Tool are in the same league, much less the same ballpark.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Sayre
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:54 pm to
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Some of the pro-Metallica responses in this thread are hilarious and must be feeble attempts to troll.



Indubitably.

Metallica was one of the best things going in the late 80s, and they did have an incredible influence for a while. Their first three albums are as good as any in another acts catalog and are better than most. But they were not alone. Megadeth, Slayer, and a number of other bands were getting the message out too. Metallica only went into total over saturation when they went for the mainstream and took the complexity out their music after Cliff died. Popularity doesn't necessarily equal quality to anyone with discerning taste.

Some of the best concerts I've been to have been for both bands, but I would not have any interest in seeing Metallica at this point. St. Anger was horrid, and Death Magnetic was a pathetically forced attempt to get back to a place they'll never reach again. It's one cliche after the next.

Tool is coming from a totally different place than Metallica. Far from being pretentious, their last album was just a natural progression of their art. Unlike Lars and the rest of Metallica, the members of Tool actually work at their craft and are constantly striving to be better musicians, even at this age and point in their career.

Metallica's been on cruise control for almost a quarter of a century. Tool is still reaching for new heights. This debate is so lopsided as to not even be a contest at all.
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:59 pm to
HeadyBoo

quote:

Very stupid comparsion on both ends



Why? If you're gonna make that statement, at least back it up with an explanation...
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:01 pm to
metallica to me is meathead music

what kind of person honestly listens to metallica under the age of say... 25 these days?
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

I see people including albums post-"...And Justice" as part of Metallica's "good" portion of their career.

I...I just...

Same.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

what kind of person honestly listens to metallica under the age of say... 25 these days?

I would say the average Metallica fan is early 30s to mid 40s, people who grew up with them in the late 80s and early 90s.
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:17 pm to
Which means you should've grown up with Tool too (early 90s)
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:20 pm to
I did. I just got bored of them. The last two times I saw them were both sleep inducing. I still enjoy their 90s albums, just don't have much desire to listen to them anymore.
Posted by NachoReb
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:24 pm to
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I know its cool to hate on Metallica but the fact is, they're the Led Zeppelin of their time. If Zeppelin had continued on and put out some shitty albums, all the cool kids would hate on them too. If Metallica had broken up after the black album they'd be almost universally loved by rock fans, same as Zeppelin is now. Timing is everything.


This

Posted by Wrenchruh
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

tool, love them or hate them, writes poetry put to music.


Took you out in the back of the toolshed
Put it right on top of your forehead
Took you out in the back of the toolshed
Now you know what you're frickin with... Maynard's dick!


Posted by beezylsu
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:24 pm to
Metallica and it's not close. The question is borderline absurd. The first three Metallica albums (Kill Em All, Ride The Lightning and Master of Puppets) are cornerstones for an entire genre of music. I don't actually think Tool fans can admit that any of their albums carry that kind of weight (Yes, even Undertow).

Awesome is not even an adjective in Tool's vocabulary. They know two words, dark and brooding. Tool fans bring the band down more if anything. One of the most obnoxious set of fans in music.

Posted by northshorebamaman
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:26 pm to
Shots fired.
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