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re: What Metal band did Nirvana/Grunge kill in 1991 that was going to hit next?

Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:35 am to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:35 am to
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What Metal band did Nirvana/Grunge kill in 1991 that was going to hit next?
The thing I always thought was funny about this supposed shift in genre was how easily I also just liked Nirvana. Smells Like Teen Spirit frankly comes off pretty much as metal - it even has a solo, even if only mimicking the verse melody. The production on Nevermind was great and it was a heavy album in general. It didn't make me stop thinking about Metallica, Pantera and Skid Row...I just added it to the list.

And Alice in Chains (by far the best "grunge" band) was just clearly metal themselves.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 11:52 am
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:14 am to
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Posted by Hetfield
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:52 am to
Willing to bet a Metallica & Alice in Chains tour in 1991-1993 would've made a lot of money.
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Metallica wanted AIC to open for them on the Black Album tour but by the time they formally asked them AIC had already committed to opening up the Van Halen tour. There was nobody out there they wanted so they just didn't have any opener in America on the Black Album tour. I went to the Shreveport show & they just showed a video for about 20 minutes before they came out on stage.

AIC was set to open for Metallica on the 1994 Summer Tour but Layne of course had to go to rehab so they had to drop out of the tour right before it started. I went to that show in Houston(Baytown)& they had Candlebox replace AIC. It was Metallica, Candlebox, Suicidal Tendancies, & Fight(Rob Halford's band after leaving Priest). It was insane & everyone wishes AIC would have been there. I never got the see them with Layne.
Posted by themetalreb
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:25 am to
Saigon Kick
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Posted by Corso
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:17 am to
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I would strongly disagree


What do you think it was about?
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:18 am to
Tuff (a kind of a mini-Poison) was a band a hair-metal diehard buddy of mine thought would break big right around the time Nirvana hit. Didn't happen.

I always thought White Lion would hit a gear and do something interesting. Vito Bratta was a great player and they always had more to their sound than their peers.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:20 am to
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Metallica was a force of nature at that time.




Metallica was an entity unto itself and no one ever doubted their authenticity
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:54 am to
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I went to that show in Houston(Baytown)& they had Candlebox replace AIC. It was Metallica, Candlebox, Suicidal Tendancies, & Fight(Rob Halford's band after leaving Priest). It was insane & everyone wishes AIC would have been there. I never got the see them with Layne.
At the motor speedway! I was there too! I really got into Fight after that. Both albums were great, but the 1st one is a classic.

Metallica opened with Breadfan and that was the most scared I've ever been at a concert. To this day, I'm still surprised people didn't die. The crush of the crowd was terrifying. I looked up, and they were already midway through the 2nd song (Puppets) and everyone was in a daze and like 200 feet from where they had started.
Posted by Hetfield
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:16 pm to
Yes. That Baytown show was one of the best Metallica shows I have seen. The Breadfan opener was great & unexpected(we didn't have the internet then to tell us prior setlists) & they played Disposable Heroes which they rarely ever played. Having Candlebox in place of AIC was tough to hear when they announced it about a week before the tour began. It was so HOT & humid out there that day too but what do you expect for the Houston area in the summer.

Fight was amazing. Their guitar player for that album & tour was Russell Parrish. You now know him as "Satchel" in Steel Panther.
Posted by BCLA
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:31 pm to
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What Metal band did Nirvana/Grunge kill in 1991 that was going to hit next?


I'd argue that it helped propel Alice in Chains and Soundgarden, which were the next evolution in metal at the time anyway.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:36 pm to
Yup. Started out in the hard core thrash scene. Music wasn't the glam metal type. They were defining their own music and genre, unlike the hairbands.
Posted by Palomitz
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Skid Row's problem was their issues with Sebastian. They could have been a second rate GnR. Much like GnR, their lack of success in the 90s was due more to internal band issues than Nirvana or the public's changing taste in music


This. I think that Sebastian was pretty immature with the success of the debut album & Slave to the Grind. Heavy drinking and drugs eventually led to the animosity in the band (including clashing egos). The group fired him thinking that their success will continue without Sebastian. They were wrong. A similar situation happened with Warrant and Jani Lane.

To me, those 2 bands were very talented and had great songs but they peaked way too late during the hair band era (1989-90 I think). And to me, those 2 bands were the last successful bands of heavy metal or hard rock.
Posted by Potchafa
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:07 pm to
Pantera does not belong anywhere in this thread.
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:29 pm to
I don’t know, Slave to the Grind hit pretty hard iirc even in the death throes of metal. Could still claim some residual affect but I’m sure there’s other better candidates.
Posted by CutTheCord
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:07 pm to
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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:11 pm to
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Metallica was a force of nature at that time.



Pre-St. Anger/Some Kind of Monster, Metallica was the biggest heavy act ever.

In my mind, they have been significantly eclipsed by Tool, but that's purely subjective (plus Tool is just sort of a different animal altogether).

Metallica was unstoppable for that period, though.
Posted by Hoodie
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:22 am to
Strictly as far as being a “big act,” I’ll argue that in no way has Tool surpassed Metallica.

Like it or not, Tool simply doesn’t have the kind of name or brand recognition Metallica does. They never will, and it’s not even close.

Look no further than Metallica’s association with Stranger Things or their residency on the Kimmel show for proof of this.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:33 am to
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Metallica’s association with Stranger Things or their residency on the Kimmel show


Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:20 pm to
Laugh if you will, but that’s the kind of stuff that makes one band a bigger act than the other.

Most folks don’t know who Tool is.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:41 pm to
Hopefully all of them. Thank goodness for grunge era to wipe all that nonsense away.
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