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re: What Metal band did Nirvana/Grunge kill in 1991 that was going to hit next?
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:49 am to Alyosha
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:49 am to Alyosha
Grunge was the most degrading thing to ever happen to rock music…it was mostly guys who didn’t wanna put in the time to really learn to play their instruments…so they played 3 chords (out of tune) while standing on a square piece of carpet with their feet together.
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Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:48 am to themetalreb
I mostly agree. And if rock hadn’t been so damned depressing during the grunge era, it might hold a better seat at the table, today.
Hip hop and bro country rule the charts now, because their fun. The average listener is only gonna listen to song about heroin junkies for so long.
Hip hop and bro country rule the charts now, because their fun. The average listener is only gonna listen to song about heroin junkies for so long.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:13 pm to Hetfield
quote:Do you remember Hetfield did a Butthead impression from offstage...and then just screamed "BREADFANNNNN"? Truly berserk.
The Breadfan opener was great & unexpected
quote:I'm not sure I ever knew AIC had been slated originally. That is a crushing blow, in retrospect, as I never got to see them. However, I really loved Candlebox. I had seen them open for Rush about 6 months before and was in to them.
Having Candlebox in place of AIC was tough to hear when they announced it about a week before the tour began
quote:I'm not sure I knew that. We used to be entertained by JJ the bassist. Saw them at Tipitina's in 1995 and he was playing in the crowd - walking around Trujillo-esque. In fact, Fight thread incoming...
Fight was amazing. Their guitar player for that album & tour was Russell Parrish. You now know him as "Satchel" in Steel Panther.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:14 pm to Ace Midnight
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In my mind, they have been significantly eclipsed by Tool,
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:16 pm to themetalreb
quote:Meh, I don't think this is right. I guess it depends on your definitions. I think Nirvana were great at their instruments. Even just the pure-tone intro to Teen Spirit is sneaky complex. I'm not sure I've ever seen a cover band guy actually do it correctly.
Grunge was the most degrading thing to ever happen to rock music…it was mostly guys who didn’t wanna put in the time to really learn to play their instruments…so they played 3 chords (out of tune) while standing on a square piece of carpet with their feet together.
Is AIC grunge? If so, your comments are completely and utterly laughable.
I hate Pearl Jam, but are they grunge? If so, again, laughable.
Who are you even talking about? Mudhoney? Nobody gives a shite.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 1:57 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I'm not sure I ever knew AIC had been slated originally. That is a crushing blow, in retrospect, as I never got to see them. However, I really loved Candlebox. I had seen them open for Rush about 6 months before and was in to them.
I saw AIC open for Ozzy in Memphis. I had a ticket to see RUSH when Candlebox opened. It would have been my first time seeing RUSH (or Candlebox). But Geddy had throat problems, laryngitis or something, and the show got canceled. Soon afterwards, Neil's life went off the rails with his wife and daughter. It was years before I had another chance to see them.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:03 pm to Hetfield
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Metallica wanted AIC to open for them on the Black Album tour but by the time they formally asked them AIC had already committed to opening up the Van Halen tour. There was nobody out there they wanted so they just didn't have any opener in America on the Black Album tour. I went to the Shreveport show & they just showed a video for about 20 minutes before they came out on stage.
That part is not true.
Skid Row were asked to open the tour, and they declined because they wanted to do their own headline gigs at that point.
Mr. Ulrich's exact quote was, "Believe me, we wanted Skid Row real bad."
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:20 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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I saw AIC open for Ozzy in Memphis.
That fricking rules.
Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:03 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Big Scrub Tx
I’m shocked you disagree with a post on this board. Completely shocked.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:24 am to themetalreb
quote:Are you further shocked that the post you reference only has upvotes?
I’m shocked you disagree with a post on this board. Completely shocked.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:51 am to Big Scrub TX
Lol you sure about that?
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:44 am to Hetfield
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The Breadfan opener was great & unexpected(we didn't have the internet then to tell us prior setlists)
But we did have other human beings who went to those shows and told others about it via other forms of communication.
There was a very active tape trading circuit that existed at the time as well, so it wasn't a huge shock 2 months into the tour (I was at the same show).
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:16 pm to Mandocello
Hair metal was pretty much dying up until 1991, GNR was considered a hair metal band at points but never really were.
I mentioned this in another thread, but most of the Billboard magazines from the late 80s and early 90s are free to read on google, and you can research trends on all of this on a week by week basis
Grunge is like a made up term someone probably at Geffen came up with for marketing.. if you look at the big 4.. Nevermind is a Pixies record, Ten is a pretty straight forward alternative record of the time, Soundgarden was basically tinged on the edge of heavy metal before Superunknown, and AIC was just a great rock band with a great lead.. the Melvins were probably the closest thing to grunge of any band, and that's not sell cds and flannel shirts
I mentioned this in another thread, but most of the Billboard magazines from the late 80s and early 90s are free to read on google, and you can research trends on all of this on a week by week basis
Grunge is like a made up term someone probably at Geffen came up with for marketing.. if you look at the big 4.. Nevermind is a Pixies record, Ten is a pretty straight forward alternative record of the time, Soundgarden was basically tinged on the edge of heavy metal before Superunknown, and AIC was just a great rock band with a great lead.. the Melvins were probably the closest thing to grunge of any band, and that's not sell cds and flannel shirts
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 5/31/23 at 2:43 pm to Keep Stirring
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Grunge is like a made up term someone probably at Geffen came up with for marketing.
Apparently it was exactly a made up term for marketing by now-defunct label Sub Pop.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 2:48 pm to wareaglepete
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Saigon Kick
Good one. Surprised they didn’t make the transition as I kinda saw them as having some feel for both.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 2:59 pm to caill430
My answer was going to be Steelheart; however, after researching further, the lead singer was involved in a very serious on-stage accident in October 1992 and they didn’t put out another album until 96. So seems like the accident and injuries may have been more to blame than changing music tastes.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:21 pm to Mandocello
It is very true that Metallica wanted AIC to open the Black Album tour but couldn’t because they already agreed to open for VH. I saw the interview with Lars explaining this on MTV right when the tour started. I have no doubt they wanted Skid Row as well but he never mentioned them in that interview.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:30 pm to Havoc
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Apparently it was exactly a made up term for marketing by now-defunct label Sub Pop.
Sub Pop is not defunct.. I know before the pandemic they had a store in the Seattle airport that the guy from blanking on the band worked there.
edit: Sub Pop definitely still exists and puts out new albums.. the drummer from Screaming Trees worked there when it opened in 2014
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:22 pm to Hetfield
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It is very true that Metallica wanted AIC to open the Black Album tour but couldn’t because they already agreed to open for VH. I saw the interview with Lars explaining this on MTV right when the tour started. I have no doubt they wanted Skid Row as well but he never mentioned them in that interview.
I didn't say it was an MTV interview - it was a print interview in a magazine.
Which specific MTV interview was it that you saw? Was it Rockline with Kirk & Lars? That is the longest interview they did on MTV in '91 by far.
I sure as heck do not recall anyone in that group even mentioning Alice In Chains in 1991, much less offering them a tour.
Not to mention that if they were so gung ho on doing that, they could have had them as an opener at some point during 1992/1993. It wasn't "An Evening With" for 2 years.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:44 pm to caill430
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