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re: Weak links in famous bands
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:50 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:50 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
My vote is Bob Weir in the Grateful Dead. They almost fired him along with Pigpen at one point because he sucked so bad. Other than being the one handsome guy in a band of talented but ugly musicians, his contribution is pretty iffy
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 2:09 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
Jon Anderson
James Labrie
James Labrie
Posted on 3/31/20 at 2:27 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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He is the driving creative force in that band
As a drummer, he is shaky. Sometimes fine, other times, especially live, I do not know how the band stays together at all.
But, without Lars, I don't think their output would be anywhere near what it has been. He has a knack for hearing what James comes up with and knowing how to put it together. It is an invaluable contribution to Metallica as a whole. I would say that he and James are the main creative forces, complementing each other. James comes up with the parts, Lars knows how to string them together. One without the other isn't nearly as effective.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 2:43 pm to 14&Counting
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My vote is Bob Weir in the Grateful Dead.
quote:What about his vocals?
his contribution is pretty iffy
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:00 pm to TDcline
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Adam Jones is probably the ‘weakest’ musician in TOOL.
Is this where I leave the comment about RATM being one of the best bands in all of history - desperately in search of a vocalist?
(Yes, I know about Audioslave, which was awesome.)
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:04 pm to composerdave
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One of the greatest frontmen in history without question, but muscially he's always just been OK.
I mean, is this even a question? We go back to Freddie - Freddie was an elite tier frontman, but Dave was comparable.
Heck, most working bands with any reputation had a vocalist who could hold their own with Dave. Frontman? Not so much.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:59 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
Pete Best.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:21 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
The E Street band is great but they have a mediocre singer.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:18 pm to OldTigahFot
Rick Allen
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:26 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
Seriously dumb takes in this thread.
Mike Mills? He was the dadgum heart of REM and a quality bass player.
Sid Vicious? While he was useless, he didn’t even play on Never Mind The Bullocks, their only real album.
Michael Anthony? What? Solid bass and those songs are shite without his backing vocals.
Lars? Come on. He gets crap, but his energetic drumming really anchored those first Metallica albums.
Mike Mills? He was the dadgum heart of REM and a quality bass player.
Sid Vicious? While he was useless, he didn’t even play on Never Mind The Bullocks, their only real album.
Michael Anthony? What? Solid bass and those songs are shite without his backing vocals.
Lars? Come on. He gets crap, but his energetic drumming really anchored those first Metallica albums.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:41 pm to wareaglepete
Lars gets a lot of hate based on St Anger and he just comes off kinda douchey. Metallica's music doesn't feature any super complex drumming and that's fine. He gets the job done for them.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:26 am to 14&Counting
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My vote is Bob Weir in the Grateful Dead. They almost fired him along with Pigpen at one point because he sucked so bad. Other than being the one handsome guy in a band of talented but ugly musicians, his contribution is pretty iffy
Completely disagree. That episode you are referring to about almost getting kicked out was in 1968 when he was still only 20. He was 5 years younger than the other members so obviously a little immature in the beginning and likely putting more effort into partying than playing.
His rhythm guitar is very unique and he has always said he tried to mimic piano chords than traditional rhythm guitar. When I listen to Jerry's solos and focus on bob, I'm usually amazed at how he coordinates and helps drive jerrys solo.
Also, think about his lead vocals on songs like Sugar Magnolia and Truckin' and close to 40% of their entire catalog. He was also a great backup and rhythm vocalist for the rest.
He wasn't just the pretty boy :) Anyways, I need to stop rambling about the dead :)
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:35 am to whatkindanameiskirby
I would add Adam Clayton of U2. Maybe they have only needed a traditional bass player, but I sometimes wonder what could have been if he explored a little more. And some of their b-sides give hint to that.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:51 am to mdomingue
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All of them were great at their craft but Alex Lifeson was clearly the lagger in Rush
This almost sounds comical till you realize that there is no way you could say Pearl or Lee would come in third in that trio.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:51 pm to mdomingue
I always considered Lifeson to be under appreciated as a guitarist.Peart was neither underrated or overrated he was just great
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:00 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
Everyone not named Chester Bennington, Mike Shinoda, or Joseph Hahn in Linkin Park. All average musicians at best. The reason Meteora was their last great CD was because those average musicians took a back seat to the big 3. They never got it back. BMTH is doing post-Meteora Linkin Park better than Linkin Park did. That’s the Spirit is a very airy, atmospheric, post Meteora, linkin Park esque CD and they crushed it on that album. Why? Cause the two most talented musicians in the band run the effing show.
Not that it matters with Chester gone, but Brad and co. mucked up a really cool thing.
The lyrics on Minutes to Midnight were on point. Too bad the music didn’t match. And Hahn basically disappeared from the forefront.
Not that it matters with Chester gone, but Brad and co. mucked up a really cool thing.
The lyrics on Minutes to Midnight were on point. Too bad the music didn’t match. And Hahn basically disappeared from the forefront.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:37 pm to Pvt Hudson
Meh - I stand by this. The topic was the weak link. We know what Van Halen was without DLR - pussy contemporary rock.
None of you can argue EVH is the weak link.
If you want to argue Alex vs Mike - I’m open to that.
None of you can argue EVH is the weak link.
If you want to argue Alex vs Mike - I’m open to that.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:20 pm to Pvt Hudson
As I've gotten older, I appreciate Sammy more. It might be because he is a really good dude and DLR was a nutjob. No question, DLR was the better showman. But, Dave couldn't have pulled off some of those softer songs. Conversely, I heard Sammy try tunes like Panama and it just did not work.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 1:33 pm to Bunk Moreland
If they didn’t try to be the same band - it would be better. Growing up with Van Halen (one of my first concerts), I didn’t like what it became.
I liked Sammy - Three Lock Box, Heavy Metal, I Cant Drive 55 - all good songs.
It was like Dio joining Black Sabbath.
I liked Sammy - Three Lock Box, Heavy Metal, I Cant Drive 55 - all good songs.
It was like Dio joining Black Sabbath.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 1:35 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
Meg white
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