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re: Weak links in famous bands
Posted on 4/2/20 at 1:48 pm to wareaglepete
Posted on 4/2/20 at 1:48 pm to wareaglepete
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Lars? Come on. He gets crap, but his energetic drumming really anchored those first Metallica albums.
He actually helped metallica imo. His simple playing allowed for easy listening to a lot of people. A lot of brains dont like over complexity in patterns, especially back then at first with thrash. Had Mike Portnoy been in the band I'm not sure if it would have worked with those guys. Simple formula..
Give Lars a click track, let kirk carry the complex weight, james to give it some punch and turn jason down.
Cliff was better at what he did than all of them though.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 4:18 pm
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:31 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
Niki Sixx - Motley Crue
Matt Sorum - GNR (did not have Adler's style)
Rob Zombie - White Zombie
Matt Sorum - GNR (did not have Adler's style)
Rob Zombie - White Zombie
Posted on 4/2/20 at 5:31 pm to FearlessFreep
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Probably an unpopular opinion, but Mike Mills of REM
Man, I don't know about that. Mike Mills was often considered the most versatile and talented musician in the group. I remember listening to Dead Letter Office and thinking it was amusing how he's yelling out chord changes to Pete Buck on their sloppy cover of "King of the Road".
And you can't discount his backing vocals.
Bill Berry's contribution was always underrated as well. His backing vocals blended well with Mill's.
Also, the remaining members all mentioned, after he left, how much of an important part he played in developing songs when he was in the band.
Most of the songs they recorded over the years after he quit suffer from him not being there, in my opinion.
Hell, he largely wrote most of the song "Perfect Circle", which I think is one of the prettiest songs they've ever produced. He also wrote songs for some other Athens bands of that era.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:12 am to Brosef Stalin
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Lars gets a lot of hate based on St Anger and he just comes off kinda douchey
I believe that hate was based more from his Napster soapbox.
I'd say Kirk moreso than Lars. Hell, the band practically didn't even need him for St Anger. Since then, I've heard James throw Kirk under the bus for various reasons on a few occasions, and I get the impression he feels like Kirk should just be happy he's still in the band, lol...
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 8:29 am
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:37 am to cgrand
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brent mydland
IMO he wasn't the weak link as far as musical ability goes, but he should've played less synth and more organ. I'd have to go with Donna instead... she was a great fit when she was in top form, but unfortunately that soon became the exception to the rule.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:52 am to whatkindanameiskirby
Probably Ron Wood. Good player, but would be the least missed.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:18 am to PacoPicopiedra
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:30 pm to 14&Counting
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My vote is Bob Weir in the Grateful Dead.
Early on? Sure.
Post-1970? Bad take.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:31 pm to cgrand
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brent mydland
Bad take
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:21 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:right now? most definitely
Early on? Sure.
Post-1970? Bad take.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:06 am to vandelay industries
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Probably Ron Wood. Good player, but would be the least missed.
I agree, what I said earlier was Charlie Watts had no business being in a rock and roll band because he's a wonderful jazz drummer. People are very thick-headed on this site.
And for the Brian Jones comment, good God. He was a genius.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:07 am to vandelay industries
quote:
Probably Ron Wood. Good player, but would be the least missed.
I agree, what I said earlier was Charlie Watts had no business being in a rock and roll band because he's a wonderful jazz drummer. People are very thick-headed on this site.
And for the Brian Jones comment, good God. He was a genius.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:14 am to whatkindanameiskirby
quote:
Weak links in famous bands
Corey Feldman
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:29 am to whatkindanameiskirby
For a band more current...
Matt Walst in Three Days Grace.
His vocals are nowhere near what Adam had to offer.
Matt Walst in Three Days Grace.
His vocals are nowhere near what Adam had to offer.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:19 am to dbeck
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Corey Feldman
Maybe the only worse overall band than Kiss.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:27 am to facelessman07
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For a band more current...
Matt Walst in Three Days Grace.
His vocals are nowhere near what Adam had to offer.
Matt Walst is so far from Adam Gontier that I wouldn’t even consider them a famous band anymore.
If you want to hear “Other bands do karaoke versions of songs I wrote”, you go see Three Days Grace. If you want to hear some Three Days Grace, go check out Saint Asonia or Adam Gontier playing solo acoustically (which if you look up 2018, you’ll see some really fun covers outside of TDG as well).
Adam’s acoustic performances have contained some of my favorite concert experiences.
- Most Fun Live Cover - Hearing “The Drugs Don’t Work” at HOB and being one of about 3-4 people in the crowd who even knew the song. I don’t think I’ll ever get to experience that level of hilarity again.
- They were supposed to play NOLA with Nickelback. I wasn’t paying for that. When that show got cancelled (legit thanks Nickleback) TDG booked HOB for the evening. And I got to hear an acoutic TDG open for an electric TDG. So instead of not paying $50 to see 30 mins, $20 got me nearly two hours of TDG in their heyday.
Article on that night in NOLA.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 9:45 am to ShamelessPel
I was pumped when SA was hyping their debut album 5 years ago. Then when I heard it, I was disappointed. Everything that I loved about his vox in 3DG was gone. The distortion wasn’t there. He sounded flat. He sounded tired. He didn’t sound like himself.
Flawed Design is much better imo, however, from what I’ve heard of 3DG since his departure, the instrumentals aren’t as good. Take all the new 3DG music and add Adam’s vocals and you have a recipe for success.
If Staind stays active, I’m not sure how long they can keep SA afloat. If I were Adam, I’d be on my knees making some serious apologies to my former bandmates.
Flawed Design is much better imo, however, from what I’ve heard of 3DG since his departure, the instrumentals aren’t as good. Take all the new 3DG music and add Adam’s vocals and you have a recipe for success.
If Staind stays active, I’m not sure how long they can keep SA afloat. If I were Adam, I’d be on my knees making some serious apologies to my former bandmates.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:28 pm to PacoPicopiedra
quote:Hey, I said it was probably an unpopular opinion
Man, I don't know about that. Mike Mills was often considered the most versatile and talented musician in the group.
As you mentioned, Bill Berry was underrated as a drummer and is cited by the rest of the band as playing a huge part in their sound. I always thought Stipe’s voice was one of the best in rock history, and Buck is one of my favorite rock guitarists, so that leaves Mills as the “weak link” in the band.
Also, they rose to fame at UGa the same time I was playing bass in relative obscurity at AU, so there might just be some envy affecting my judgement....
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 4/4/20 at 5:02 pm to vandelay industries
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I'd say Kirk moreso than Lars.
Truth. Lars has never been a drum machine but he's always been perfect for Metallica. YouTube Dave Lombardo and Enter Sandman and you'll understand why. Kirk gets praise because he's the lead guitarist of the biggest heavy metal band ever. He wrote some great solos back in the day, but has very little actual writing credits and is one of the sloppiest "legendary" lead players I've seen. Hetfield can't rip through a bunch of scales like Hammett can because that's not what he practiced his whole life, but Hetfield is a much better all around guitarist than Kirk in my opinion. It's been around 25 years since Kirk showed up at the studio and did anything other than write a generic solo and record it.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:49 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
Peter Tork. He just didn’t look like a Monkee.
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