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re: Weak links in famous bands

Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:33 pm to
Adam Jones is probably the ‘weakest’ musician in TOOL.

That statement says more about the level of musicians in TOOL than it does about Adam Jones.

ETA: Because so many aren’t competent at distinguishing the point, I’m saying all the musicians in TOOL are absolutely incredible musicians. Adam Jones is an amazing guitarist. Saying he’s the worst musician in that band is like saying the other 3 are Jordan and Jones is Pippen. Other 3 are arguably some of the best in the game at their instrument. If you disagree, who would you say Jones is better than? Chancellor? Keenan?
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Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Mike Anthony - Van Halen


Just no. While he may not have been an extraordinary bass player, his backing vocals were an integral part of the classic VH sound.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:45 pm to
Ringo Star is probably the consensus pick. Brian Jones of the stones too. Timothy B. Schmit of the Eagles.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:54 pm to
The thread is about weak players in famous bands. Every band’s players and be ranked from strongest to weakest, but that’s not what we are talking about.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 3:42 pm to
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I’ll get down voted to hell but Ozzy in Black Sabbath. Dio in Black Sabbath was so much better.


Horrible take.
Posted by mdomingue
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

quote:

All of them were great at their craft but Alex Lifeson was clearly the lagger in Rush.

What makes you say this?



I was responding to a post saying Peter Chris was the least talented guy in a group not considered that talented saying that here is a group where they are all very talented. So its not that Lifeson lacks talent, it's that the members of Rush are individually so good that a guy as talented as as Lifeson could still be considered the least talented guy in a group.

Perhaps a bad turn of phrasing. Better to say he was the guy who got the least accolades, generally speaking. I always felt like he was undervalued by most folks. I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure Geddy Lee and Neal Peart were both considered to be better at their respective craft than Lifeson was.



Posted by selfgen
youngsville
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:24 pm to
Paul Simonon of the Clash.

Musically, he offered very little. He was great for their image, especially in the beginning, he was the creative mind with regards to their style, their clothing, and he chose the band’s name.
But his bass playing was nothing special and some of the Clash’s best bass parts on their records is other artists-like Mick Jones and Norman Watt-Roy.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:44 pm to
Dennis Wilson
Posted by composerdave
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:03 pm to
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Mike Anthony - Van Halen


Yeah...no.

Just because Eddie had him play primarily eighth note root patterns doesn't mean that's all he can play. Eddie's style of playing and his control over the band determined what Mike played. Not saying he's Jaco or Billy Sheehan, but he's better than he was allowed to show in VH.

And his vocals were always stellar. Honestly, I would say Dave was the weakest link musically in VH. One of the greatest frontmen in history without question, but muscially he's always just been OK. Which is what made Van Halen who they are. DLR is a carnival barker, drawing folks into the tent. (and IMO, that quality was invaluable to VH's success. I contend that without Dave's swagger, EVH would not have been as widely revered) But vocally, Mike was better. And I'd wager...still is.
Posted by purpgoldblood
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:59 pm to
Robert plant
I know he had incredible range but damn I love everything about zeppelin other that womanly singing
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
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22054 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:13 pm to
Hate to say it but these days probably Axl Rose in GnR. The live performances I've seen from the past few years sound more Mickey Mouse than Axl.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:02 am to
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Ringo Star is probably the consensus pick.


Ringo is more just underrated, he showed some serious chops on many songs, Also had a unique style that resulted from being left handed and playing a right handed kit, he always went around the kit “backwards.”
Posted by NachoReb
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:49 am to
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brent mydland


Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:57 am to

Stuart Sutcliffe, Beatles
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:21 am to
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Ringo Starr*

quote:

Robert Plant

Lol, what?

Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
18019 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:26 pm to
I don’t know if this exactly fits the category because none of the band are anything special as musicians but Paul Stanley is a horrible singer if you’ve ever heard him outside the studio
Posted by Damone
FoCo
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:36 pm to
Just had to find a way to shoehorn Tool into the discussion
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:11 pm to
The Captain
Posted by The Sea Otter
Member since Mar 2019
582 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:14 pm to
The guy who play the tambourine in Whiskey Myers
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:36 pm to
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Lars Ulrich of Metallica is a good example. He's sloppy and messes up in concerts all the time.



As much of a tool as Lars is, I don't think you can consider him a weak link. He is the driving creative force in that band especially when it comes to arrangements. Lars has been the driving force behind the creative vision of Metallica since its inception. Granted it was also his vision to put out St Anger and LuLu, but he is also responsible in large part for all of their classic albums as well.
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