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re: One genre you will not listen to and why
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:25 pm to CottonWasKing
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:25 pm to CottonWasKing
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Hes better than most but he doesn't shake the norm enough to provide hope
Sadly, I agree. I think we may be getting closer to a mainstream/alternative collision soon though. I think The Avetts will be a catalyst in some way. I may be overestimating the American public though
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:29 pm to genxtiger
The ignorance in this thread is awesome, im really enjoying it.
I think its funny when people bash a musical genre or culture because they dont understand it or identify with it.
That being said, im not into country or metal, but i dont claim that i could do it or anything like that.
I think its funny when people bash a musical genre or culture because they dont understand it or identify with it.
That being said, im not into country or metal, but i dont claim that i could do it or anything like that.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:32 pm to rutiger
I'm not sure if I said any of the things that offended you.
BTW this thread is one of the least ignorant/tame ones I've seen based on this subject
BTW this thread is one of the least ignorant/tame ones I've seen based on this subject
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:32 pm to genxtiger
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I can't do ANY of the heavy stuff that screams and grunts at me the whole time. I really don't get the appeal.
+145678
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:33 pm to rutiger
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but i dont claim that i could do it or anything like that.
I agree.
The ignorance towards rap lyricists and the producers that create their beats is what really astounds me.
Lyricists are every bit as talented as a guitar player is without a doubt. A guitarist has a set of rules to play by that will bring him to his next note a lyricist has no such guidelines.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:37 pm to CottonWasKing
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The ignorance towards rap lyricists and the producers that create their beats is what really astounds me. Lyricists are every bit as talented as a guitar player is without a doubt. A guitarist has a set of rules to play by that will bring him to his next note a lyricist has no such guidelines.
They are different skills, but skills none the less. And its ALL art regardless of your attachment to it.
The history of hip hop and its origins are just as amazing as the history of the blues or jazz.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:39 pm to genxtiger
modern country pop
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:40 pm to genxtiger
country. cant stand it except for Johnny Cash and neil young.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:43 pm to rutiger
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They are different skills, but skills none the less. And its ALL art regardless of your attachment to it. The history of hip hop and its origins are just as amazing as the history of the blues or jazz.
agree again
I'm not a huge fan of the genre but I respect the difficulty and the talent it requires to create a good/great album in that genre.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:45 pm to CottonWasKing
Most rap "lyrics' I've seen are awful, with clumsy rhymes (or near rhymes)
To compare rappers to Jerry Leiber, Chuck Berry or Gerry Goffin is bad enough. To compare them to Ira Gershwin or Lorenz Hart is insane.
To compare rappers to Jerry Leiber, Chuck Berry or Gerry Goffin is bad enough. To compare them to Ira Gershwin or Lorenz Hart is insane.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:52 pm to Kafka
I love Chuck Berry, but Chuck D runs rings around him as a lyricist. I don't see how you could argue otherwise, really. I think a lot of popular rap is awful, but that's no fault of the genre, its the fault of people buying crappy singles and record companies pushing crappy artists. Meanwhile, Talib Kweli can get name checked by Jay Z, but isn't the household name like some talentless hacks like Lil Wayne are.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:53 pm to Kafka
Completely different genres that are trying to accomplish completely different things with their lyrics.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:57 pm to Kafka
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Posted by Kafka Most rap "lyrics' I've seen are awful, with clumsy rhymes (or near rhymes)
So because your knowledge of the subject is limited, you feel the need to bash it. Seems like the right thing to do.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:58 pm to Baloo
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I love Chuck Berry, but Chuck D runs rings around him as a lyricist. I don't see how you could argue otherwise, really. I think a lot of popular rap is awful, but that's no fault of the genre, its the fault of people buying crappy singles and record companies pushing crappy artists. Meanwhile, Talib Kweli can get name checked by Jay Z, but isn't the household name like some talentless hacks like Lil Wayne are.
Motherfricking this.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 6:04 pm to rutiger
How much shite do I have to smell to know it stinks?
Posted on 4/17/12 at 6:08 pm to rutiger
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The history of hip hop and its origins are just as amazing as the history of the blues or jazz.
Bottom line is blues and jazz take real talent. Hip hop takes some cheesy rhymes and beats.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 6:13 pm to Kafka
I agree with Kafka. How much rap do I have to hear before I say "Oh, well this is good!"? I give anything a chance. I said there are some rappers I actually do like. It is just super rare. I've seen live rap, just does nothing for me. I'll listen to songs with substance and meaning other than a genre that is mainly bragging, punchlines, and unnecessary acronyms like YOLO and HYFR. To rappers I enjoy (kid cudi, lupe fiasco, tupac, and a handful of others) I'm sorry to say, your peers ruin it for you as a genre.
Posted on 4/17/12 at 6:17 pm to CocoLoco
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I agree with Kafka. How much rap do I have to hear before I say "Oh, well this is good!"? I give anything a chance. I said there are some rappers I actually do like. It is just super rare. I've seen live rap, just does nothing for me. I'll listen to songs with substance and meaning other than a genre that is mainly bragging, punchlines, and unnecessary acronyms like YOLO and HYFR. To rappers I enjoy (kid cudi, lupe fiasco, tupac, and a handful of others) I'm sorry to say, your peers ruin it for you as a genre.
I don't like the genre but I'm not going to sit her and say it requires no talent out of the respect I have for the ones that are insanely talented lyricists
Posted on 4/17/12 at 6:17 pm to genxtiger
I'll listen to anything without complaining if that's what everybody else wants to hear. I can't stand rap though.
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