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re: Jason Isbell - Can’t Believe Some of Y’all Like This Guy

Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by ScoopAndScore
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:17 pm to
Isbell has to be partially retarded, right?
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 6:22 am to
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Except for when a lot of his songs are political


A lot? I can think of one song (White Man’s World) that is overtly political. There are a couple others that you could interpret some political meaning from (Hope The High Road and What Have I Done To Help). What else am I missing?
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:22 am to
You just described Dylan lol
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:32 am to

quote:

We’ve been testing you And you failed To see how long that you could sit with the truth but you bailed I don’t think you’d even recognize the loss of control And I don’t think you even see it in yourself See every one of us is counting dice that we didn’t roll And the loser is the last to ask for help Be afraid, be very afraid But do it anyway Do it anyway The stage belongs to you And you feel like a star And you can bark and snap like a dog at the man who just tuned your guitar And I don’t think you’d even recognize a kid in the wings And I don’t think you even see her in yourself She looks to you for what to do with all her delicate dreams But you’re too terrified to be of any help



Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:40 am to
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A lot? I can think of one song (White Man’s World) that is overtly political. There are a couple others that you could interpret some political meaning from (Hope The High Road and What Have I Done To Help). What else am I missing?



so 3 songs from 8 albums is "a lot" apparently. yes, isbell is very polarizing on social media but to say that the majority of his songs are political is false IMO.
Posted by MobileJosh
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:55 am to
His last album was very political. Everything he does now days is drenched in politics. The only way you dont see that is if your political views align with his. Which also makes you a fricking moron. But then again you prove that quite often on this board.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 7:56 am
Posted by MobileJosh
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:58 am to
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A lot? I can think of one song (White Man’s World) that is overtly political. There are a couple others that you could interpret some political meaning from (Hope The High Road and What Have I Done To Help). What else am I missing?




And just like that I know your political affiliation
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:19 am to
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if you're insinuating the latter then you really don't know the politics of those guys
quote:

Jones, Cash, Jennings or Owens.


fricking this. Everybody listens to an old Hank Jr. rail about politics and he is wildly conservative. I don't think prime Bocephus was exactly a beacon of conservative values. Cash? Hell no.

George Jones I have no idea. Prime Jones was a drunk who was better served to stay quiet during those years.

Owens? BUCK Owens? California cowboy? Better not dig too deep on his politics. I don't pretend to know them, but I can assume some may be disappointed.

Separate the music from the musician. Until the politics bleeds into music. Then it is fair game.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28772 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:36 am to
For the most part I don't care about the politics of the musicians and I know I disagree with most of them. Make good music and I don't really care. The problem is when it becomes the person's entire identity, and all that person mainly talks about, like it has with this cuck Jason Isbell.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 8:36 am
Posted by monsterballads
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:50 am to
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Everything he does now days is drenched in politics. The only way you dont see that is if your political views align with his. Which also makes you a fricking moron. But then again you prove that quite often on this board.


I can sense the massive butt hurt you have over muh politics and isbell. he's a hell of a songwriter even if I disagree with him on his politics. maybe mature a little bit and you'll be able to separate the art from the artist.
Posted by rutiger
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:08 am to
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Everything he does now days is drenched in politics. The only way you dont see that is if your political views align with his. Which also makes you a fricking moron. But then again you prove that quite often on this board. I can sense the massive butt hurt you have over muh politics and isbell. he's a hell of a songwriter even if I disagree with him on his politics. maybe mature a little bit and you'll be able to separate the art from the artist.



Watch out, he knows your political views now.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
29599 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:24 am to
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You just described Dylan lol


This isn't a very good take. Dylan might have voiced some politics when he was a kid starting out, because that was the type of scene where he decided to make his initial mark.
Once he shed that folk skin though, he didn't talk politics much, he let his songs speak for themselves and didn't beat you over the head with his views. If you liked him, you could buy his records.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22903 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:45 am to
Unless you are following him on Social media, how are you even aware of his political views? I would have no clue if I didnt follow him on Twitter (or read whining threads on this board)..
Posted by Clovis Pilgreen
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:58 am to
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Unless you are following him on Social media, how are you even aware of his political views?


Uh, listen to his songs. Or watch him live. Or follow the singer songwriter, Americana, whatever genre in any way, shape or fashion. I don’t know what’s more funny, the people that he triggers or the people who pretend like he and his music aren’t overtly political.

ETA-He has a song where he gets all sappy about how great abortion is for gods sake lol.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22903 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 12:22 pm to
Yeah - I assume if you dont like his politics (views or in songs), you'd just be done with him... if its something you cant get past...

This comes up every 2-3 months on this board, so its nothing new...

I know he expresses his political views and have no issues with him or any artists that do so...
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5618 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 12:39 pm to
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fricking this. Everybody listens to an old Hank Jr. rail about politics and he is wildly conservative. I don't think prime Bocephus was exactly a beacon of conservative values. Cash? Hell no.

George Jones I have no idea. Prime Jones was a drunk who was better served to stay quiet during those years.

Owens? BUCK Owens? California cowboy? Better not dig too deep on his politics. I don't pretend to know them, but I can assume some may be disappointed.

Separate the music from the musician. Until the politics bleeds into music. Then it is fair game.


Like I said in my previous post.

All those guys were true liberals - mostly speaking out for the blue collar little guys and against both the Dems and Reps in the govt. - closer to a modern day libertarion mixed with some populism

Isbell is a progressive leftist that supports a totalitarian way of govt run by corporate oligarchs all the while claiming everything they don't agree with is racist or sexist and apologizing for being white

Just look at the way that Steve Earle and Van Moorison who definitely lean way to the left spoke out against covid policies and govt response and then Isbell who towed the line and loved every insane policy
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 12:46 pm to
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This comes up every 2-3 months on this board, so its nothing new...


It seems like it's more like every 2 or 3 weeks. And it keeps coming up because his mouth never seems to stop running. He REALLY needs to let you/me know that he's better than us because of his beliefs.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
30807 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Everything he does now days is drenched in politics.


maybe you should keep complaining about him on a messageboard. that'll show him!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84194 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:17 pm to
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My only exposure to Isbell is knowing that he and the Drive By Truckers were really popular on an Auburn board that I post on. I always assumed that they were a Jam band like Widespread Panic, which isn't really my thing either.


From that period, try The Day John Henry Died, Decoration Day, Goddamn Lonely Love and Outfit.

Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5703 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:21 pm to
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