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A Great Lyricist doesn’t need to use Curse Words

Posted on 10/6/25 at 1:39 pm
Posted by STigers
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 1:39 pm
Tyler Joseph (Twenty One Pilots) has a perfect explanation on why he doesn’t need to use curse words

Great band with a great moral compass

I don’t mind occasionally cursing but honestly if a song is full of profanity it’s a sign of a poor vocabulary. Which generally makes for a terrible song with no real depth. IMO

Agree or Disagree?

Do you have favorite lyricist?

Tyler Joseph is a great lyricist and one of my favorite
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 1:45 pm to
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Agree or Disagree?


It's situational. Sometimes a song calls for it. But if it's egregious, it's a turnoff - like anything that's forced.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 1:59 pm to
This bar graph is basically shittiness level of Taylor Swift albums



Her first three albums were actually really good. Now it's just sad.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:12 pm to
When used properly it is fine, but a lot of time in pop music and more mainstream rap/hip hop it is used to cover for deficient song writing skills. Also there is a massive difference in different curse words. I don't think a random "damn" slipped in moves the needle.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 4:35 pm to
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This bar graph is basically shittiness level of Taylor Swift albums



She's just like Chuck E Schumer trying desperately to sound relevant and cool by using those hip curse words
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:30 pm to
The best use of any curse word in song lyrics, literature, speeches, poetry, etc., is when it is u sed only once to provide extreme emphasis on a particular statement or point. It is used to make a point. It can be very impactful when used correctly.
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:28 pm to
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Her first three albums were actually really good

All her albums are fantastic, esp the latest, The Life Of A Showgirl.

Look at the results: Swift's 2.2 B net worth doesn't lie.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:56 pm to
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Agree or Disagree?


It depends on the song and how the curse works are used. Many songs are written with the voice of the people the writer knows and so if those people curse all the time then the writing may reflect that. And the way the cursing is used and the context can be as informative to the song as a Robert Burns drunken stanza.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 11:14 pm
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:02 pm to
I want to hear T Swift say “whore”
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 11:03 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:06 am to
Only if it serves the rhyme, not as filler. There are much better ways to creatively curse without cursing


Vulgarity for vulgarity's sake is the sign of a weak mind.


Now if it's for humor? Changes things. Still better to be clever than crude
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 12:08 am
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:10 am to
Every word has a purpose. If it didn't it wouldn't be a word.

And if you think curse words are never needed in lyrics I offer you the Book of Dreams version of Jet Airliner versus the Greatest Hits 74-78 version of Jet Airliner.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:02 am to
I don't care for it in songs, and I don't use curse words in my songs, but I've noticed in recent times that people who cuss quite a bit, sell a lot of music.
Go figure.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:11 am to
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I want to hear T Swift say “whore”

Maybe in the right context. If it's in one of her lousy copy/paste pop numbers, no thanks. If she's telling me "treat me like a whore, Daddy," it would definitely be more impactful.
Posted by STigers
Gulf Coast
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:04 pm to
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It depends on the song and how the curse words are used.
a couple of examples where it fits

Using it once
Using it more than once
Posted by HeLeakin
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:32 pm to
Will Smith has entered the chat
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 2:18 pm to
A great lyricist uses all words at their disposal.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:49 pm to
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great lyricist uses all words at their disposal.


I don't remember dylan or hank swearing
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:08 pm to
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I don't remember dylan or hank swearing


You might want to go listen to "The Hurricane" again.



You are twisting what I said. I wasn't implying that a good lyricist needs to use curse words. What I am saying is that a good lyricist doesn't feel the need to put boundaries on how they express themselves.
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:22 pm to
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Will Smith has entered the chat


Will Smith don't gotta cuss in his raps to sell records
Well I do
so frick him and frick you too
Posted by Tigris
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Member since Jul 2005
13077 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:44 pm to
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Do you have favorite lyricist?


Several, I think only Warren Zevon used profanity.

"Send lawyers, guns, and money, the shite has hit the fan" (1989)

I think that's appropriate for the song.

Kodachrome (1973) - Paul Simon was one of the first to push the boundary. As a teenager I liked it a lot and it seems like radio stations would delete "crap" from "when I think about all the crap I learned in high school", at least for a while but ultimately stopped.

Later, I was in college and one of the guys in the dorm had Harry Nillson's Nillson Schmillson album with the song "You're breaking my heart" on it. It includes the line "You're breaking my heart, you're tearing it apart, so frick you!" We were amazed. And played it often. Harry Nillson died a few years later and at his funeral George Harrison yelled out "frick you" and the guests broke into singing the song.

Back to Zevon - 2 years before Zevon was diagnosed with terminal cancer (2002 I think) he wasn't feeling good and wrote the song "My shite's fricked Up". Because that's how he felt. By then it was pretty much the wild west for using profanity.

Personally, I like occasional profanity to emphasize a point. But non-stop profanity for the shock value, not a fan. That train left the station long ago anyway.
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