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Why is the Glengarry Glenn Ross/Alec Baldwin scene so revered?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:24 pm
He comes in, talks his shite, but provides no explanation on what he does right and why the other guys do wrong.
Here’s the scene....
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Here’s the scene....
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:29 pm to finchmeister08
Because it is an easy way to digest what a high pressure world actually wants from you.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:31 pm to finchmeister08
Because we all drink coffee.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:38 pm to finchmeister08
Alec Baldwin playing the part of an insufferable douche. Quite a stretch.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:43 pm to finchmeister08
Because frick you that's why. Too mean? I don't care. What kind of car you drive?
You stop drinking coffee, coffee is for closers.
You stop drinking coffee, coffee is for closers.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:53 pm to Napoleon
quote:This.
Because frick you that's why. Too mean? I don't care. What kind of car you drive?
You stop drinking coffee, coffee is for closers.
You don't understand? frick you, loser, you never will understand.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:55 am to Jcorye1
That was a fantastic article 
Posted on 12/12/18 at 5:20 am to finchmeister08
from the article below:
In the scene Baldwin's character speaks unfiltered truth about the world and you either embrace it and it motivates you or you complain and whine and let the world swallow you up....but here's the thing, most of those leads are utter crap
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As smarter people have pointed out, the genius of that speech is that half of the people who watch it think that the point of the scene is "Wow, what must it be like to have such an a-hole boss?" and the other half think, "frick yes, let's go out and sell some goddamned real estate!"
In the scene Baldwin's character speaks unfiltered truth about the world and you either embrace it and it motivates you or you complain and whine and let the world swallow you up....but here's the thing, most of those leads are utter crap
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 5:25 am
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:52 am to Pilot Tiger
Margin Call had 2 similar points that I've stolen, but it wasn't as projected and direct. I started writing the first on notepads all around my home office (my girlfriend removed most of them b/c she didn't like them)
1. Why are you necessary?
2. Are you going to be better by being smarter, first, or cheating?
I'm trying to think of a way to do the "why are you necessary?" in a picture-poster to hang in my office
i think a big think people get wrong is due to lack of compartmentalization. this macho talk is about your role and value in a service economy. your quality as a person is something completely different, and very few people get to display their quality as a person through their work (i actually get to do this but even then i still have to justify why i am necessary to these people at the price i demand)
1. Why are you necessary?
2. Are you going to be better by being smarter, first, or cheating?
I'm trying to think of a way to do the "why are you necessary?" in a picture-poster to hang in my office
i think a big think people get wrong is due to lack of compartmentalization. this macho talk is about your role and value in a service economy. your quality as a person is something completely different, and very few people get to display their quality as a person through their work (i actually get to do this but even then i still have to justify why i am necessary to these people at the price i demand)
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:36 am to finchmeister08
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Why is the Glengarry Glenn Ross/Alec Baldwin scene so revered?
Because everyone who has ever been in high pressure lead driven sales can relate to every character in that scene deeply and immediately.
It is a damn near flawless representation of the sales world and its written and acted perfectly.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:58 am to finchmeister08
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but provides no explanation on what he does right
Because it is high pressure sales and he is just applying the pressure. I have always believed, no matter what anyone says, you can't teach someone how to sell. They either have it or they don't and this character realizes this and just goes straight to pressure for results.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:03 am to Blaeke
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:01 am to wareaglepete
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I have always believed, no matter what anyone says, you can't teach someone how to sell. They either have it or they don't
Yep. That's it.
You can teach someone how to rebuttal, and give them a script of closes, and they can work their way up to "Adequate". But the arse kickers are both born with the gift, and work their arse off to perfect their craft.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:19 am to finchmeister08
If you've ever worked a soul-sucking job for a heartless company that can replace you in a second, you understand the beauty of that scene.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:17 am to Jcorye1
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LINK
This is probably my favorite Cracked article of all time, and it takes a decent deep dive into it and why it matters.
Some of that is insightful, some of that is facile pseudo-wisdom. I haven't read Cracked in years, but I do recall that being a particular idiosyncrasy of David "I ain't actually Asian" Wong. He's not bad at it, but he runs into the same problem as Tyler Durden -- he'll say things with such assurance that they sound like they ought to be true, but don't stand up under real scrutiny.
Which parts are which here? frick you, close.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:30 pm to Jcorye1
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This is probably my favorite Cracked article of all time, and it takes a decent deep dive into it and why it matters.
This is a great quote:
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Saying that you're a nice guy is like a restaurant whose only selling point is that the food doesn't make you sick. You're like a new movie whose title is This Movie Is in English, and its tagline is "The actors are clearly visible."
So is this:
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But here's what everyone needs to know, and what many of you can't accept: "who you are inside" is the metaphorical dirt from which your fruit grows.
You" are nothing but the fruit.
Nobody cares about your dirt. "Who you are inside" is meaningless aside from what it produces for other people.
I want that made into a motivational poster
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:56 pm to finchmeister08
Had bosses like that. Been to seminars like that. Hate those people. Really turn me off. Couldn't make it through the whole video.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:03 pm to finchmeister08
The scene is great. But the amount of Anti- capitalist knuckleheads who think it’s an accurate representation of American commerce is hilarious. Mamet can write though .
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