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Maybe it came from AU conspiracy theorist

They definitely got the short end of the stick with the
5 permanent schools.UF,UT,Bama,UGA not sure of the 5th


There's always that. Southern sports breed conspiracy theories like bunnies, and not just in Louisiana. Probably because the Yankees were always conspirin' agin us.
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Larry Munson said it in his radio show a long time ago.
He also said Bear was a huge factor on which teams went
to which bowls. No idea how true it was.


It's always possible when talking about a good ol' boy, and the Bear was the goodest ol' boy around, so I won't dispute it or anything. Just found it odd that he would have that much influence so early in his Bama career. Granted, he had UK doing really well earlier, but that was a pretty short stint.
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out the 5 permanent teams in the early 60's and Bear had a huge influence on who played who.



In the early '60s? The Bear was respected but not, well, the Bear that far back, right? It would make more sense if he exerted his influence on who played whom in the mid-'70s, I would think.

re: Something to laugh at...

Posted by randomways on 1/7/19 at 3:29 pm
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Tennessee was dubbed the Volunteer State because so many of the men from East Tennessee volunteered to fight for the Yankees during The War of Northern Aggression.


I know that part. The part I'm less clear on is the ubiquity of people just generically referring to Tennessee natives as "volunteers" in the same way that Indiana natives are called "hoosiers" and North Carolina natives were frequently just called "tarheels." Since Prof is more attached to the state and, well, kinda educated in a Knoxvillain (yes, intentional spelling) sense, I'm leaning toward accepting that it was actually pretty common back in the day.
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See 1972 controversy in which Bama won the SEC Title 7-1 in SEC play with a loss to Auburn who finished 6-1 in league play. In that season, teams played anywhere from 6-8 SEC games that season.


Thank God the internet wasn't around then, because that's just ridiculous. It would have caused a bigger melt than any so-called mulligan, and people would be quite right to melt. Though I'm guessing the administrators of Auburn's athletic department, who would be in charge of scheduling, would deserve some of the blame too.

re: ESPN Smoking Some Good Stuff

Posted by randomways on 1/7/19 at 3:19 pm
It's not ESPN per se, it's their simulation formula. It seems almost unique among the dozens of ranking formulae in that it's one that actually tends to get worse with more evidence to factor in.
Why does Auburn always have players whose names sound like knock-offs of better SEC players at other programs? It's just weird.

re: Something to laugh at...

Posted by randomways on 1/7/19 at 2:43 pm
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Tarheels and Vols have better marketing departments.


I honestly know essentially nothing about the historical usage of Volunteers. I mean, obviously I'm aware that it's the Volunteer State, but it never occurred to me that locals were routinely called "Volunteers" outside of the context of the university in the same way that North Carolina residents were called tarheels, so I didn't even think about Tennessee. But, then, I'm not actually from Tennessee, so my knowledge would be limited.
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Clemson's opponents have been favored in 5 of their 6 playoff games yet they're 4-2. I'd say they're consistently underrated


This is 2018-19, though. I'm guessing that one time out of six was this season against Notre Dame, which suggests they don't have an upset on their record to use as evidence this year. We can't really point to past seasons as evidence of anything.
Clemson is talented AF and well-coached. They can, in fact win. Bama's better but not light-years better, so Bama has to bring its A game to keep Clemson from putting a real scare into them.

Remember, the last time Clemson beat Bama, Bama was the better team then too. Upsets happen, especially at this level.

re: Something to laugh at...

Posted by randomways on 1/7/19 at 2:32 pm
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??

Hoosiers would be Indiana fans, not Notre Dame fans.


Unlike UNC, North Carolina, and tarheels, IU has never managed to completely co-opt the name for the locals. Remember, they even named a movie about high school basketball "Hoosiers" and it wasn't a reference to where the main character went for college.
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Good school tho, have a cousin who graduated there a few years ago.


You, I believe. Him, I don't. He's really quite dumb.
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FFS.

You realize there were two separate groups of text there, right?


Yes, and the first part was about it not being new. Had nothing to do with the fact that you were begging the question in the second part. Literally. Nothing. You are one stupid frick, and stupider for thinking you're being clever by avoiding admitting you fricked up.

Ohio State...admitting anyone with a pulse since long before UCF was doing it.
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That statement says that Delaney is right to ask for clarification from the committee and that the committee can't get four teams right.

You took it out of context initially because you thought you had something. Your professor explained something to you that you thought you understood. Clearly, you didn't.


frick, you literally just quoted me explaining how you were using a conditional. There wasn't even an "and" in that clause. There's a reason you weren't willing to repeat the quote. It's like talking to a 5 year old who insists that the evidence is wrong. Forget it. Now that we've established your mental and emotional age, it's pointless to keep it up.

re: how does it feel Bama fans?

Posted by randomways on 1/7/19 at 12:10 pm
The honest answer is that most fans, including students currently attending the institutions, don't give much of a damn about sports other than football and basketball, with baseball a distant third, and the attendance numbers bear that out. Oh, sure, if a given university happens to be particularly good in a certain non-Big 3 sport, it'll get somewhat more interest (like, say, gymnastics at several SEC schools, soccer at some schools, etc.) But even those don't draw anything near the attention of the big sports. Just how it goes. Being "well-rounded" is just a bragging point, not a sign of how much the fans actually care about the sports.
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I gave an opinion that Delaney was correct to ask the committee for clarification and another opinion that the committee can't get the four teams right. That's why you needed to take that out of context to give us your idiotic reply


Here, I'll put it in context:

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Delaney is right to ask for clarification from the committee who can't get four teams right...


The statement clearly defined Delaney being right to ask in terms of a committee that can't get four teams right. You stupid lying frick. :lol:

Dude, you can wriggle and weasel about all you like, but it just makes you look like a bitch too afraid to even concede he's wrong. Seriously, that's what people who are insecure about their intelligence do.
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You can say that but look where he spent most of his life. It was not in the SEC.

Long was born in Ohio
Played QB in Ohio
Went to college in Ohio
Had his first coaching job in Ohio
Coached at Michigan
Assistant AD at Michigan
Married a woman from Ann Arbor (home of Michigan)

If he is in his mid to late 50's then his formative years were spent in the B1G


But this micromanaging of personal histories can go overboard. This is a much more mobile era -- does anyone associate Saban with the B12 (WV footprint, though I think it would have been the Southern conference back then) or the B10 (MSU)? Would anyone have objected had Les Miles been an SEC rep after leaving LSU despite Les not being an "SEC man" in terms of his past? Long was at Arkansas for nine years and there's no reason to think he wouldn't represent the SEC interests, especially since he was under a major microscope, being the head of that first committee.
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Just saying something is an opinion doesn't mean it can't be challenged.



Neat. Challenge away.

Just be correct if you're going to be an a-hole.

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Do they teach "begging the question" at Ohio State?


You used that claim to support your original contention that Delaney was right to ask. You made it conditional on the premise that the committee can't get the four teams right. As such, it is fully subject to questions about whether that premise is actually true. You are asking us to buy the assumption that it is. Which is where begging the question comes in.

My reply wasn't some random choice of words. You stupid frick. :lol:
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I'm impressed that you took an undergrad philosophy elective, but that was an opinion. You don't need to like it.


Um...okay? Just saying something is an opinion doesn't mean it can't be challenged.

Seriously?
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the lone SEC guy (Manning)


Jeff Long was the Arkansas AD at the time, so he counts as an SEC guy.