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re: What was the stupidest thing about final seasons of GOT?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:03 pm to Frac the world
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:03 pm to Frac the world
The whole jamie lannister and brienne of tarth love story.. how the books build up to it and out of nowhere he runs back to Cersei in the show
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:26 pm to Espritdescorps
Will we ever get The Winds of Winter? The last book came out 14 years ago.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:29 pm to PrattvilleTiger
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Will we ever get The Winds of Winter?
No
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:32 pm to PrattvilleTiger
The last book either came out just before the show premiered or just after. Within the same year. That’s incredible.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:41 pm to PrattvilleTiger
My sweet summer child
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:26 am to Frac the world
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:29 am to Frac the world
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What was the stupidest thing about final seasons of GOT?
A post I made not too long ago...
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for me (I know it was earlier for most), was season 7, episode 6, Beyond the Wall. The quality had already been dropping obviously, which was to be expected given they ran out of source and you couldn't expect Dumb and Dumber to write as good as GRRM. But, nothing imo had been just completely ridiculous as S7 EP6.
Let's think about this for a minute (long post incoming). Just the plan in general was completely idiotic. Why in the world would they think that Cersei would even remotely care about the army of the dead/the Night King? There was zero chance she was ever going to help out and if anything, seeing one would make her happy that they were marching on Winterfell. So a handful of guys risk everything to go up against thousands upon thousands of wights and white walkers just for the chance to possibly capture one and bring it back to Cersei, what a brilliant plan. I guess the army of the dead will stop marching on the wall while they make their little trip to Kings Landing.
Then good old Gendry, who can run 80 MPH without a breather, makes it back to the wall and passes the torch to a raven that can fly 400 MPH, he passes the torch to Dany. All of this in a span of a few hours. Meanwhile the army of the dead are completely content just waiting there (while at the Battle of Winterfell they are literally throwing themselves on fire so they can get over the traps). The Hound (whom I love) decides to be the biggest idiot ever and throw a rock at them, because that'll really show em, and he let's them know the pond is iced over.
So Dany comes to save the day and they are making a perfectly fine get away on the dragon, but Jon inexplicably decides that he doesn't need to get on the dragon and get away but wants to be a hero and kill just a few more inconsequential wights that would have made no difference at all. If he would have just got on with everyone else, they could have presumably flown away safely. But no, he stalls Dany/everyone to kill a few more so in the mean time the Knight King can ice javelin a dragon down and give him the dragon they need to get past the wall.
Almost every other option out there was a better plan that what they did. 1) Fly to Kings Landing, burn up Cersei/take the throne and use your new army to help fight the dead. 2) Let the army of the dead march on the wall and fight them there and burn up the army. 3) Just let Jon and company die out there and live to fight another day but just with 6-7 less men. Your useless mission handed them the only thing that could let them get passed the wall.
Every single detail of that episode made no sense. Even wasting Benjen coming back. He for some reason can't put Jon on his horse and ride him back to the wall, there's no time for that. More important was him killing a few wights so a half dead/freezing Jon can I guess now walk back faster and get away from the army.
Long read I know. But on the re-watch (which I swore I never would do), I was actually not bothered by as much as I remember. Outside of the ridiculous Dorne plot and all of Dorne being ok with Ellaria Sand killing Doran Martell and Areo Hotah because Doran didn't do anything over Oberyns "murder". He wasn't murdered you idiot, he chose to be in a fight to the death match and he lost fair and square. That sucked, but that was his choice and he cost himself his life by being arrogant. Even with an insignificant character over throwing the leader of Dorne can be excused because we got the glorious boobs of Tyene Sand and "bad poosy"
Ok ok I'm done. I will defend the Battle of Winterfell though, I'm sorry, that was a bad arse battle outside of completely wasting her Khalasar on a dumb charge into the night. It was a gritty, dirty, smokey battle and needed to be dark. Jon should have had a showdown with the Night King but Arya was my favorite character in the books and the show so I didn't have a problem with her killing the Night King as most did.
I won't go intot he ending of the show, which I could write an essay on.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:34 am to boxcarbarney
Add to the fact that Naath is poisonous to non natives so they all would die if they went there. I take comfort knowing Greyworm died.
Imagine letting GREYWORM(!!!!) be the deciding factor of what happens to Jon Snow.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:40 am to Frac the world
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What was the stupidest thing about final seasons of GOT?
The fact that some viewers were shocked Daenerys went on a crazy murder spree when she had wanted to go on crazy murder sprees the entire series but had been held back by people who were all dead by the time she got to King's Landing.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:40 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I can’t imagine what it would’ve taken to forge that big arse chain, but how did the zombies know they even needed that big arse chain to begin with?
Were they just dragging the big arse chain around everywhere they went just in case they might need it?
at hardhome the wights wouldn’t get in the water, and they just watched Jon sail away. But when the dragon hit the water, the wights dove in and secured the dragon with no issues at all.
They gave bran the king of the six kingdoms, but I don’t think Brian can have kids, so who is bran’s heir?
Won’t they have the same problems with heir to the king of the six kingdoms after Bran dies?
Why didn’t the night King just crush arya’s skull like a grape when he was holding her?
why was the Wight still alive when he was so far away from the night King in Kings Landing?
Were they just dragging the big arse chain around everywhere they went just in case they might need it?
at hardhome the wights wouldn’t get in the water, and they just watched Jon sail away. But when the dragon hit the water, the wights dove in and secured the dragon with no issues at all.
They gave bran the king of the six kingdoms, but I don’t think Brian can have kids, so who is bran’s heir?
Won’t they have the same problems with heir to the king of the six kingdoms after Bran dies?
Why didn’t the night King just crush arya’s skull like a grape when he was holding her?
why was the Wight still alive when he was so far away from the night King in Kings Landing?
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:53 pm to supatigah
The fact that finding dire wolves in Ep 1 ultimately meant absolutely nothing
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:48 pm to supatigah
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They gave bran the king of the six kingdoms, but I don’t think Brian can have kids, so who is bran’s heir?
Bran having no heir was the entire point of making him king. They changed from being a hereditary monarchy to an elective monarchy.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 11/24/25 at 9:37 pm to LSUBoo
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The showrunners thinking that the audience would be upset about Missandei dying. Sorry, no one cared about her.
Great rack tho.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:02 pm to Frac the world
Everything. Every single thing from Season 5 on was absolute shite
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:17 pm to Frac the world
Kings Landing terrain changing to a flat field
Posted on 11/25/25 at 6:58 am to LordSaintly
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And having Arya kill the Night King.
This is the one that really pissed me off. The Night King should have been killed by Dany or Jon. The show never firmly established Jon Snow's Fire/Dragon roots enough to let him do it, and Dany doesn't have beef with the Night King. The show royally fricked this up. The books are called A Song of Fire and Ice FFS.
GRRM has written Arya as an assassin - why should she be involved in battle situation at all? Walder Frey was the practice run. fricking Cersi is her main target. She never takes a shot?
I honestly don't know what went on in the writers' room, but GRRM must have told them what they couldn't do to save the actual/make sense stuff for his books.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:54 am to threeputtforbogie
terrible
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:58 am to Frac the world
Westeros time warp express.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:17 am to Dr RC
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Bran having no heir was the entire point of making him king. They changed from being a hereditary monarchy to an elective monarchy.
There is no justification for Bran being king. If that's the way it would be in the book, fine, but GRRM will certainly get there in a different way. The way Dumb and Dumber got there just made it the worst possible ending ever. For numerous reasons...
Bran had just an episode or two prior literally told Meera and others numerous times that he is no longer Bran. He was three eyed raven and virtually a zombie. He had no concern for titles or even his own family name, much less being freaking king. But yes lets stroll him into counsel meetings and let him warg out while everyone else makes all the decisions.
And lets not forget who the two people who actually make the decision to name the king are... Tyrion and Grey Worm. Two people that have absolutely no business being the decision makers.
Tyrion, who is a prisoner for betraying Dany, same as Jon. He was just as responsible, if not more, for Dany''s death than Jon was. It was his idea and he coached Jon into it. But they bring him out in shackles and even though he's not supposed to talk, he goes on a 5 minute long dumb rant about making Bran king and everyone is just cool with it. Why is Tyrion getting a free pass in this situation? Tyrion is in jail with Jon but a few minutes later he is deciding everything and even playing a part in Jon's sentencing. They banish Jon but Tyrion's crimes are erased and he gets to serve as hand of the king simply because it was his idea to name Bran? GTFO.
"Who has a better story than Bran?" EVERYONE!! Bran's story was one of the worst in the entire series. He story had absolutely zero rulership arc. None. "Why do you think I came all this way?" BECAUSE SOMEONE PUSHED YOU DIPSHIT. You couldn't do anything without the help of others. Yes that'll make a good king, one that is completely reliant on others. Don't even get me started on what type of kingship Bran would have but it certainly dumb to portray Bran and a magical totalitarian zombie ruler as a good thing.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:24 am to BitBuster
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The books are called A Song of Fire and Ice FFS.
Eh. Close nuff
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