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re: True Detective S4 Season Long Thread

Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:27 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:27 am to
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Season 1 also had a lot of humor in the dialogue between Marty and Rust, there’s none of that here.


True and something I hadn't really thought about even though I just started season 1 again. Have the last 2 episodes and I haven't picked it back up after 1.5 weeks

My wife watched season 1 and then watched season 2 this weekend and when she asked me why everyone hated season 2 before she watched it I couldn't think of the right word but I have now: dour.

Season 4 is relentlessly dour like season 2
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 7:29 am
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:29 am to
Yeah I did a rewatch before beginning S4 (in retrospect a big mistake) and the humor really stuck out to me. It’s something that I think subconsciously seeps in on the first watch and makes everything work so much better.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29861 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:01 am to
The Marty/Rust dialogue in S1 is great, and it's made even better by the actors and their timing.


[RUST] It's all one ghetto man.
A giant gutter in outer space.

[MARTY] Today. That scene?
That is the most fricked up thing
I ever caught.
Can I ask you something?
You a Christian, yeah?

[RUST] No.

[MARTY] Then what do you
Got the cross for in your apartment?


[RUST] Eh, it's form of meditation.

[MARTY] How's that?

[RUST] I contemplate the
Moment in the garden.
The idea of allowing
your own crucifixion.

[MARTY] But you're not a Christian
So what do you believe

[RUST] I believe that
People shouldn't talk
about this type of shite at work.


[MARTY] Hold on. Hold on.
Three months we been together,
I get nothing from you.
Today? What we're into? Now.
Do me a courtesy, ok?
I'm not trying to convert you.

[RUST] Look, I consider myself
a realist, alright?
But in philisophical terms
I'm what's called a pessimist.


[MARTY] Um, ok what's that mean?

[RUST] It means I'm bad at parties.

[MARTY] [Chuckles] Let me tell you,
You ain't great outside
of parties either.

[RUST] I think human consciousness
Was a tragic misstep in evolution.
We became too self aware
Nature created an aspect of nature
Seperate from itself.
We are creatures that should not exist
By natural law.

[MARTY] Hmm, that sounds
God-frickin' awful Rust.


[RUST] We are things
Laboring with the illusion of
Having a self.
This secretion of sensory experience,
And feeling.
Programmed with total assurance,
That we are each somebody.
When, in fact, everybody's nobody.

[MARTY] I wouldn't go around
Spounting that shite, I was you.
People around here don't think that way.
I don't think that way.


[RUST] Well I think the honorable thing
For our species to do
Is deny our programming.
Stop reproducing
Walk hand and hand into extinction.
One last midnight. Brothers and sisters
Opting out of a raw deal.

[MARTY] So, [chuckle]
What's the point of getting out
Of bed in the morning?


[RUST] I tell myself I bear witness.
But the real answer is
That it's obviously my programming.
And I lack the constitution for suicide.

[MARTY] My luck, I pick today
To get to know you.
Three months, I don't hear
A word from you-

[RUST] You asked.

[MARTY] Yeah. And now I'm begging

You to shut the frick up.

[RUST] Feel a bad taste
In my mouth out here. Aluminum. Ash.
Like I can smell the psychosphere.

[MARTY] I got an idea.
Let's make the car a place
Of silent reflection from now on, okay?

[RUST] What should I bring for dinner?

[MARTY] A bottle of wine would be nice.

[RUST] I don't drink.

[MARTY] Well no, of course not, Rust.
Listen, when you're at my house,
I want you to chill the frick out.
Don't even mention any of that bullshite
You just said to me.

[RUST] Of course not, Marty,
I'm not some kind of maniac, a'ight?
I mean, frick's sake.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476408 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:10 am to
Their interactions with the "new" detectives were also pretty funny, especially Marty's







Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8832 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:30 am to
quote:

I got an idea. Let's make the car a place Of silent reflection from now on, okay?

this is one of the best timed, best scripted, and best delivered lines in the entire season. i will die on this hill. it's perfect.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 8:31 am
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8832 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Season 4 is relentlessly dour like season 2

"grim" is another appropriate word. relentlessly grim.
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Their interactions with the "new" detectives were also pretty funny


Rust pulls out a cigarette
Detective: “You can’t smoke in here”
Rust: “Don’t be assholes, you wanna hear this or not.”
Detective begrudgingly slides Rust his coffee mug to ash in.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34177 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:37 am to
S1 will always be my favorite because of Alexandra DeDarrio. And the rest was pretty badass too

Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
13239 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Said his issue with Season 2 was that in Season 1 you had Marty bringing us back to earth from all of Rust's crazy talk, like being the audience in a way saying "WTF is Rust talking about?", but in Season 2 you just don't have that at all.


It's called buddy cop genre for a reason. Audiences love having two very different cops play off each other. S 1 and S 3 both understood that.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43115 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:14 am to
I enjoyed Season 2 even though it didn’t offer much humor. Ray’s interactions with his kid were gold though. Reminded me of something out of In Bruges. Was infinitely better than this mess of a season.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42262 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:49 am to
That's great scene.

quote:

[MARTY] [Chuckles] Let me tell you,
You ain't great outside
of parties either.


My favorite line. So good
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20064 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Jodie Foster is 61. Making her the town harlot is really strange.

That's what I was thinking. I know it's probably hard to bang up there with the amount of people but we know drinking is prevalent. I'm sure there are a couple of wasted younger options at all times.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48979 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:49 am to
Rewatching the Season 1, episode by episode breakdown from Pizzolatto and Fukunaga makes season 4 seem so much laughably worse. How methodical and planned out everything about that season was and how nuanced it was is just startling by comparison. The descriptions of the characters and how everything from the dialogue to the locations to the interactions with Maggie have meaning. Half the time in season 4, I’m not sure why I’m being presented with what’s on screen.

Season 1 wasn’t absolutely perfect but it was about as close as most any premier season of a show is going to get. Starting to think they made it an impossible act to follow.

LINK
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87381 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Do I think it's a great quality series? Certainly not so far. But I do have a glimmer of hope after that episode.


I continue to enjoy the heck out of it.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11170 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:11 pm to
Don’t really have any clue what’s going on, but I guarantee that the killer/bad guy definitely banged Jodie Foster’s character.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:04 pm to
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Don’t really have any clue what’s going on, but I guarantee that the killer/bad guy definitely banged Jodie Foster’s character.



that's really the only thing that we know for sure.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:04 pm to
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Aside from this season being terrible, my other takeaway is that Jodie Foster is a really, really bad actress.


She reminds me of Michael J. Fox.
















































with Parkinson's.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

I enjoyed Season 2 even though it didn’t offer much humor. Ray’s interactions with his kid were gold though. Reminded me of something out of In Bruges. Was infinitely better than this mess of a season


Yeah, Farrell did the best to carry that season. On the other hand, I think Vince Vaughn was at least half of what was wrong with it.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Don’t really have any clue what’s going on, but I guarantee that the killer/bad guy definitely banged Jodie Foster’s character.


I hope we don't have to see it. She somehow made a sex scene more awkward to watch than The Accused. That was kind of impressive.
Posted by BrockersFG
Member since Sep 2022
323 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Season 1 also had a lot of humor in the dialogue between Marty and Rust, there’s none of that here.


Something I’ve noticed is that there are a lot of attempts at humor in this season, yet none of them land.

Danvers whoring around town, being short, etc. Is that funny in Mexico?
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