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re: True Detective S3E5 - If you have ghosts potential spoliers

Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:57 am to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:57 am to
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dad killed her brother over and over and over.


But she kept asking where her brother was.

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The detectives find the cousin in 1990 timeline, beat the confession out of him, then killed him and threw his body in the reservoir where the bones were later found. They still don't find out where the girl is though. Mom ODs out of guilt.


Do you think that the case was absolutely solved in the 90's but Hays doesn't remember and just keeps doing the same thing kind of like Shutter Island?

The problem with that theory though is that the new TV person seems to have different evidence.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 8:58 am to
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Do you think that the case was absolutely solved in the 90's but Hays doesn't remember and just keeps doing the same thing kind of like Shutter Island?

The problem with that theory though is that the new TV person seems to have different evidence.



I think the cousin didn't know or didn't reveal the entire plot, so it was just a partial confession of his own involvement.

Wayne and Roland get carried away with a beating and he dies. Then they toss the body.


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But she kept asking where her brother was.


True. So maybe she was told her dad had kidnapped him or something. Idk. She's clearly been brainwashed and had some fricked up experiences (pink room princess, etc.)



This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 8:59 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:03 am to
Maybe the peep hole was a clue that Will was watching who went into the bedroom and Kindt found out about it and killed Will.

I just don't know the connection with the cousin as anybody on that block or a regular would have known who he was.

The toys in the woods might have been an offering to the kids to become passive towards Kindt and be eased into leaving. Will eventually snapped out of it though.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20138 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:17 am to
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It is kinda hard for an M18 Claymore to go off when the blasting cap is outside of the mine. It would have made a loud pop and that would have been it. The prop guy simply did not know how to properly arm a Claymore.


Don't blame the props guy. It is every bit as likely he was told how to do it. The conversations go like this:

Props: "That isn't how that goes." Followed by explanation of how something actually works.

Director: "Do you like your job? Do you want to be fired? Shut the frick up and I will let you know when I want your help."

I have seen this very conversation take place on set.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9580 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:17 am to
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Lori's studying "poultry science" isn't important, is it? I suppose it could portend some future connection to the Hoyts?


either that or just a tip of the cap to the poultry industry in NWA.

Also, did you see the shot of the blue house right before the dinner scene? Wasn't that Wilson Park? I cracked up at the comment he made about the house/neighborhood. Aren't houses in WP going for 300/ft right now
Posted by MardiGrasRazorback
Shreveport, LA
Member since Feb 2011
448 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:31 am to
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"she could still be out there"


This could absolutely refer to another female besides Julie. It could be Julie's "aunt" that the priest was referring to.
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3082 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:35 am to
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that communion photo, that's something only lucy or the husband would know.


Except all the kids who get baptized are in that pose. So it could have been someone who was affiliated with their church.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by MardiGrasRazorback
Shreveport, LA
Member since Feb 2011
448 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:36 am to
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Lori's studying "poultry science" isn't important, is it? I suppose it could portend some future connection to the Hoyts?


It could be.....if that chicken plant and its owners/employees are somehow connected. There's no way of knowing yet.
Posted by Ghost Hog
Earth
Member since May 2015
479 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:36 am to
I like the theory about Wayne and Roland taking out the cousin.

Maybe that's why the interviewer is interested in the story in the first place. Perhaps some DNA came up at the scene linking the 2 detectives to the cousin's killing ?

Maybe that's why she tells him that she cannot show him all of her cards yet.

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:38 am to
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Maybe that's why the interviewer is interested in the story in the first place. Perhaps some DNA came up at the scene linking the 2 detectives to the cousin's killing ?



I was going to write that in another response but didn't like that idea and hope they don't do that.
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3082 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:41 am to
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I got most of this because of the call from Julie. She said get that man away from me. I don't think she means Tom, I think she means Kindt.


I was thinking this as well. Either the phone call was faked by someone trying to pin the kidnapping on the Dad or it actually was her and she was referring to someone else in the frame of the camera.
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6430 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:47 am to
Both the mom and the cousin were killed by Hoyt/Bill Clinton.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:10 am to
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I like the theory about Wayne and Roland taking out the cousin.



At this point, I think I'm almost sure that happened. They basically said they did it during that conversation on the porch.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:11 am to
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I was thinking this as well. Either the phone call was faked by someone trying to pin the kidnapping on the Dad or it actually was her and she was referring to someone else in the frame of the camera.




Or she has been brainwashed by her captives after years of abuse. She clearly is messed up in the head thinking she's a princess from a pink room. I bet the pink room is where she was being held before she escaped.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
8052 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:15 am to
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Who is traumatized over being threatened with prison rape one time when you know you didn’t do it

Unless of course he did



I think that’s logical if you believe there are no wrongly convicted people in prison.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108311 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:28 am to
I don't think the detectives kill o brien. I think Tom Purcell does
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:53 am to
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Aren't houses in WP going for 300/ft right now


Probably. Houses pretty much in the box bounded by North Street, MLK, the University campus and Mount Sequoyah are $250/SF and up right now. 2000 SF new construction with zero lot is an easy $500k and up. Closer to the square they're more like $600-700k.
Posted by bulltiger91
Member since Jul 2018
125 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 1:51 pm to
I may be alone here, but I think something is going to come from that tip line call that occurred in ep 2 or 3 (can’t remember which). The caller referenced she had a dream that the girl was being held at a snake farm and that her dreams always come true. Roland scoffs and then tells her to call back in the morning and ask for the FBI agents.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30102 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:04 pm to
Somebody is gonna kill Harris too. (The cop that has a hand in this). I think they killed him and made sure he wasnt found. When Roland says “that man who’s name you just said” when talking about the mother being connected was too coincidental.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 3:18 pm
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:16 pm to
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Both the mom and the cousin were killed by Hoyt/Bill Clinton.


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