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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S06E13 “Saul Gone” SERIES FINALE Thread
Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:23 am to Corso
Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:23 am to Corso
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It would've been interesting if he'd gotten the 7 year deal and the show ended with Kim picking him up on the day he got out
But she wouldn't have wanted to see him then. It took her seeing him give it all up and confess for her to want to stick around.
I think the bus scene was just a tiny little feel Jimmy got from knowing that Saul had mattered to these criminals...that little tiny smirk. He's still a likeable guy, even in prison.
Sadly, Kim makes the real Jimmy so much better. She grounds him and lets him to real work. But Jimmy allows the real Kim to remember just how fun the cons are. Jimmy did it for the money and because Chuck made him feel like it was the only thing he was good at. Kim did it for the thrill and she knew it was bad for her, but couldn't stop with Jimmy.
Very sad, but appropriate ending for them both. Still caring and paying the price for their sins...Kim living a mundane life and only finding some peace thru volunteering and Jimmy paying his debt behind bars.
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:34 am to Cow Drogo
I can understand why this is Saul’s narrative, but I do not buy it:
“If it wasn’t for me, Walter White would have been dead or in prison within a month.”
Jesse Pinkman said it right, “Some guys are lucky … but Mr. White, he’s the devil.” WW had the luck—and skill—of the devil.
Sure, Saul put them on to Gus Fring, but Walt made major decisions that at least money-wise, turned out right, including not initially giving Jesse his 400K share of the first 38 pounds sold to Fring. Jesse was an addict at the time and Walt was right, Jesse would have been dead quickly had Walt given him that money. Walt made the decision to kill Gus Fring and strike out on their own. Walt masterminded killing the possible informants in prison simultaneously. Walt killed Mike Ehrmantraut. Walt successfully expanded overseas, etc.
Saul Goodman was a valuable consigliere to WW like Thom Hagen was to Vito Corleone, but Walter White would have forged a huge meth empire even had he never met Saul Goodman.
“If it wasn’t for me, Walter White would have been dead or in prison within a month.”
Jesse Pinkman said it right, “Some guys are lucky … but Mr. White, he’s the devil.” WW had the luck—and skill—of the devil.
Sure, Saul put them on to Gus Fring, but Walt made major decisions that at least money-wise, turned out right, including not initially giving Jesse his 400K share of the first 38 pounds sold to Fring. Jesse was an addict at the time and Walt was right, Jesse would have been dead quickly had Walt given him that money. Walt made the decision to kill Gus Fring and strike out on their own. Walt masterminded killing the possible informants in prison simultaneously. Walt killed Mike Ehrmantraut. Walt successfully expanded overseas, etc.
Saul Goodman was a valuable consigliere to WW like Thom Hagen was to Vito Corleone, but Walter White would have forged a huge meth empire even had he never met Saul Goodman.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 11:35 am
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:01 pm to timlan2057
I enjoyed the ending. Not sure what some people expected. It was good character development that was hinted on happening for multiple episodes in multiple scenes
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:04 pm to timlan2057
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Still, could another result of Kim’s confession have been that Howard had a giant life insurance policy that Cheryl, as beneficiary, could not have drawn while Howard’s death was ruled a suicide, but that she could draw after it was determined he was murdered?
COD being a suicide doesnt necessarily prevent a beneficiary from collecting a life insurance policy
usually you have to have the policy for a certain term, then it doesnt matter the COD - even suicide
unless Howard's policy excluded suicide, Cheryl Hamlin already collected. She would sue Kim out of retribution and spite
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:06 pm to Hoodie
After thinking on it, here are my thoughts.
I loved BCS and am super happy it ended with a conclusion instead of an incomplete ending. That is what I loved about BB as well.
I do kind of wish Saul would have stayed smarmy all the way till the end and just did the 7 1/2 years, but I guess he would have rather had Kim back in his life and serve 86 years.
Bob Odenkirk mentioned something about doing a series on Kim and I wonder if they revisit this with Kim working Pro-Bono on trying to get Jimmy a reduced sentence or something.
I loved BCS and am super happy it ended with a conclusion instead of an incomplete ending. That is what I loved about BB as well.
I do kind of wish Saul would have stayed smarmy all the way till the end and just did the 7 1/2 years, but I guess he would have rather had Kim back in his life and serve 86 years.
Bob Odenkirk mentioned something about doing a series on Kim and I wonder if they revisit this with Kim working Pro-Bono on trying to get Jimmy a reduced sentence or something.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:14 pm to RedHawk
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I do kind of wish Saul would have stayed smarmy all the way till the end and just did the 7 1/2 years, but I guess he would have rather had Kim back in his life and serve 86 years. Bob Odenkirk mentioned something about doing a series on Kim and I wonder if they revisit this with Kim working Pro-Bono on trying to get Jimmy a reduced sentence or something.
Well, you gotta admit, the actors aging would not interfere with a series like this.
Jimmy is serving decades in prison so Vince and Peter could go back to this 10-12 years from now and Rhea and Bob could age naturally.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:33 pm to supatigah
Howard was undoubtedly a vested partner in the firm. As his beneficiary, she would have been due a buy-out from the firm for his ownership share. Typically, lawfirms buy key man insurance on the vested partner's life, and the proceeds from that are used to fund the buy-out. No doubt, regardless as to what action she took against Jimmy or Kim, Hamlin's wife was nowhere near in need of money.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:37 pm to RedHawk
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but I guess he would have rather had Kim back in his life and serve 86 years.
I agree with you.... but no way in hell Jimmy or Saul would ever do that. That's why I have mixed feelings on the ending...
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:55 pm to JDPndahizzy
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That's why I have mixed feelings on the ending...
Yeah I feel the delta between 7 1/2 and 86 is too much. Felt like it would've been more believable if he was dealing with say 15-20 versus 86. I get he wanted to redeem himself, but that's just a bit much for me.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:07 pm to Tortious
So I see Kim staying in Florida but quitting the sprinkler place and getting a job as a paralegal. She has her wages garnished and is poor, but gets to help people with legal problems. I don't think she goes to visit Jimmy in prison again, but she probably takes his calls.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:14 pm to timlan2057
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Well, you gotta admit, the actors aging would not interfere with a series like this.
Jimmy is serving decades in prison so Vince and Peter could go back to this 10-12 years from now and Rhea and Bob could age naturally.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:19 pm to DiamondDog
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Just do the 7 and walk out.
Only thing I can figure that makes sense is he refused to framed as a victim and wanted his due credit. Even if it came with a price.
I think it was all about Saul's ego. If that somehow benefited Kim too, well that's great.
Not about any of that. It was about getting Kim back...even if he can't be with her. Jimmy proved himself worthy of her love. It was about absolution and redemption.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:35 pm to RedHawk
No, thanks. You've gotta know when to fold 'em, brother.
Jimmy and Kim are good, solid characters, but they're not interesting enough to warrant a spin-off of a spin-off, in my view.
As fun as its run was, it's time to let go of the Breaking Bad universe.
Jimmy and Kim are good, solid characters, but they're not interesting enough to warrant a spin-off of a spin-off, in my view.
As fun as its run was, it's time to let go of the Breaking Bad universe.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 4:17 pm to BuckyCheese
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BuckyCheese
You’ve been whining for 3 solid weeks. You’re as annoying as Ham
Posted on 8/17/22 at 4:45 pm to Hoodie
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As fun as its run was, it's time to let go of the Breaking Bad universe.
I agree and Vince Gilligan has said BCS was going to be the last show of the BB universe. He also thinks it's time to retire it
Posted on 8/17/22 at 5:06 pm to FredBear
quote:I get that, but "Prison Jimmy" would make for a good movie.
I agree and Vince Gilligan has said BCS was going to be the last show of the BB universe. He also thinks it's time to retire it
Saul running the joint via Kimmy funding his commissary would make Hams theory finally come true.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 5:40 pm to Macintosh
I am amazed through both series at the producers’ and writers’ ability to think on the fly and recognize great characters and the actors who bring them to life. Nobody just gets lucky this many times.
* Jesse Pinkman was originally intended to be a “passing through” character killed off after 3-4 episodes.
* Saul Goodman was supposed to be just 3-4 episodes of mostly comic relief.
* They created iconic characters Ignacio Varga and Lalo Salamanca from a throwaway line.
* Kim Wexler’s original arc was nothing more than “a woman interest for Jimmy McGill.”
* Jesse Pinkman was originally intended to be a “passing through” character killed off after 3-4 episodes.
* Saul Goodman was supposed to be just 3-4 episodes of mostly comic relief.
* They created iconic characters Ignacio Varga and Lalo Salamanca from a throwaway line.
* Kim Wexler’s original arc was nothing more than “a woman interest for Jimmy McGill.”
Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:46 pm to timlan2057
Man… finally got around to watching this tonight. What a great finale. I was not expecting that he would put the Saul persona aside and be honest and take ownership for what he had done. And then on the bus ride into prison he wasn’t sure how he felt them calling him “Saul” at first, but he realized they appreciated what he had done for them and the reputation he had built lived on. Really cool and satisfying ending. Man I’m going to miss the BB/BCS universe so much.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:35 pm to timlan2057
And of course Mike, who was supposed to just be a fill in because Odenkirk had a scheduling conflict.
Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:37 pm to timlan2057
I'm guessing that the writers wanted some finality to the series so that it's obvious there was little to no chance of anything further.
Look at RDR2... The first thing you think of when it's done and you're done thinking about how great it was is when will RDR3 come out.
No thanks on a Kim spin-off and pretty much everyone else is dead except for Jesse. Do we spin-off him as a gold prospector in Alaska lol?
Look at RDR2... The first thing you think of when it's done and you're done thinking about how great it was is when will RDR3 come out.
No thanks on a Kim spin-off and pretty much everyone else is dead except for Jesse. Do we spin-off him as a gold prospector in Alaska lol?
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