re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S06E13 “Saul Gone” SERIES FINALE Thread

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TheTideMustRoll

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Mike only regretted starting to take bribes cause it ended up getting his son killed. The guy went from dirty cop to cartel hitman. He was what he was.

Kim was a sociopath. Her conscience didn’t get her to own up to the things she did. She did it because Saul called her out. It was basically like, “oh yeah, I’ll show you”.

Walt regretted the company thing not because of greed, but because it started him down the path to were he ended up. Had he stayed with the company, there would be no need for him to start the meth business, which is why he became Heisenberg.

The guy wasn’t always evil. It’s why he told Saul he would have never hired a guy like Saul as his lawyer if he sued that company. His regret was the moment that led to his family not being financially stable, the meth, the murders.

Your view of Jimmy shows you completely missed the point of the show. Jimmy was always Saul, from the time he was a kid. Chuck didn’t create Saul. Saul wasn’t a good guy who cared about Marie’s hurt. He didn’t kill Marion cause it wasn’t his style to get his hands dirty like that. He only took responsibility in the end to impress his literal partner in crime.

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Mike only regretted starting to take bribes cause it ended up getting his son killed. The guy went from dirty cop to cartel hitman. He was what he was.

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Agreed. It misses a lot of the nuances of his character and why people liked him but it's not false.

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Kim was a sociopath. Her conscience didn’t get her to own up to the things she did. She did it because Saul called her out. It was basically like, “oh yeah, I’ll show you”.

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Again it misses a lot of the nuances of the character but somewhat true. I think she felt genuine remorse and isn't a true sociopath. But she and Jimmy did some absolutely horrible things and I don't think Kim got what she deserved. I liked her character so I'm glad she has a "happy" ending, but what they did to Howard was unforgiveable even before Lalo showed up.

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Walt regretted the company thing not because of greed, but because it started him down the path to were he ended up. Had he stayed with the company, there would be no need for him to start the meth business, which is why he became Heisenberg.

The guy wasn’t always evil. It’s why he told Saul he would have never hired a guy like Saul as his lawyer if he sued that company. His regret was the moment that led to his family not being financially stable, the meth, the murders.

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Mostly agree. Walt always had it in him. It took a death sentence for him to embrace it. But for him it was always about the power and respect. The money was (as someone else put beautifully) just a way to keep score. He is still telling people he was tricked/pushed out of his company when I believe he left because he didn't think it would amount to anything.

I don't think he said he would never use Saul because of ethics. He truly thought Saul was a bottom dweller and would never publicly associate with him on something important.

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Your view of Jimmy shows you completely missed the point of the show. Jimmy was always Saul, from the time he was a kid. Chuck didn’t create Saul. Saul wasn’t a good guy who cared about Marie’s hurt. He didn’t kill Marion cause it wasn’t his style to get his hands dirty like that. He only took responsibility in the end to impress his literal partner in crime.

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Mostly agree again. Saul or Slippin' Jimmy was more than just a persona. It's what Jimmy's drug of choice. It's how he coped with the world around him. I see him not as a truly evil person. He cared for people and had a good side. But he also was able to easily move past that. I find him more gray than black or white. Probably a darker gray overall. Killing the old lady would have been much further than he ever went. Whether he didn't do it because he literally couldn't or because he felt the pull back to a good side is interpretation.


I think your comments are pretty much in line with what I see. But you're missing all of the little details that make it possible for the fans to root for people that do such horrible things. Most everyone on the show did bad things but also did many good. And most got what they deserved at the end. Kim got off light as far as the judicial system but she at least paid a huge emotional price. Jimmy got it the best. He probably lives in jail like a king with little to no worry about his safety. Everybody he feared in the show is dead and other criminals think he's the shite. He's not free in the physical sense but he's not hiding anything any more. His life is his own again. And it keeps alive the hope of an El Camino type movie in a few years to see how Jimmy is running the prison!

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Those are some, uh, interesting takes. I will restrict myself to simply saying, "I disagree."

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Takes based on information the show presented to us. Kim and Jimmy were terrible human beings. Mike had lines he wouldn’t cross, like harming innocent people. But the guy was a dirty cop and a murderer. Walt was a pushover who let power go to his head from the anger of being screwed out of a fortune.

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This is the kind of person who would think this show was amazing. “OMG THEY SHARED A CIG JUST LIKE IN THE BEGINNING! BEST! SHOW! EVER!”

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Agree. The ending was spoiled for me but i could only get through about three quarters of the final episode because it was pointless.

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because it was pointless.

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Pointless. Made zero sense. Yet people loved it.