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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:31 pm to Bamatab
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But was that a flashback that showed the general killing Caitlin
That wasn't Caitlin, that was another metahuman from one of the first few episodes. The one Barry threw in the ocean and then she exploded. The flashback was just to show how the General knew that Barry was the Flash because he took his mask off when he picked her up.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:44 pm to Bamatab
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Well screw me, I thought that was Caitlin. That makes a ton more sense now.
You had me confused and wondering if I missed seeing something during the episode.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:59 pm to PsychTiger
I'm really, really trying to like this show, but it just isn't doing it for me so far. But I will give it to season 2 because that's when the Arrow really picked up.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:03 am to STEVED00
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Really fun episode but I just feel they failed to explain why Stein isnt pissed at Wells for turning him in to Eiling(sp).
This.
Unless that drink somehow wiped his memory, that's a big plot hole CW missed. Stein didn't even say a word about it.
Now we know that wells is reverse flash but is he the villain reverse flash or is he a future version of Barry?
This was a great episode, just a notch below the first half finale in December when flash faced off against reverse flash for the first time. Grodd is going to be incredible in march and I'm glad he gave a comeuppance to eiling.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:04 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
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I'm really, really trying to like this show, but it just isn't doing it for me so far..
This show is great.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:52 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
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season 2 because that's when the Arrow really picked up.
Nyet.
My favorite episodes of arrow are the first 9 or so. Flash has had weak moments, but tonight's episode was fantastic.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:00 am to Sentrius
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If wells is the reverse flash, does that mean he was punching the shite out of himself or is there a present day wells hiding somewhere
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That would also imply that he was talking to himself at the same time and switching places back and forth so fast that light looks slow comparatively and not even the flash could notice.
That's speed this Barry Allen can't possibly hope to match.
Looks like my hypothesis to wells being so fast as the reverse flash he two be in two places at once is turning out to be correct judging from the previews.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:44 am to Sentrius
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:16 am to Green Chili Tiger
Why did Wells help Eiling capture Stein?
I was thinking at first it was to protect Barry but if so he could have just threw him to Grodd earlier.
Also why in the hell did Stein not care that Wells drugged him?
I was thinking at first it was to protect Barry but if so he could have just threw him to Grodd earlier.
Also why in the hell did Stein not care that Wells drugged him?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:46 am to Mystery
I agree this makes no sense. Plot hole that could have been easily avoided IMO.
Eiling knew where Stein lives I would assume so why even involve Wells. Stein wasn't hiding out or anything.
Eiling knew where Stein lives I would assume so why even involve Wells. Stein wasn't hiding out or anything.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 10:50 am
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:33 am to STEVED00
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I agree this makes no sense. Plot hole that could have been easily avoided IMO.
Eiling knew where Stein lives I would assume so why even involve Wells. Stein wasn't hiding out or anything.
meh, but you also don't perform a covert operation on a residential estate when you know the reporters are already onto you. As far as Stein not saying anything to Wells... well we are talking about the smartest man alive, do you not think he would have used a drug in the drink that would knock out Stein's short term memory as well?
As far as Wells, and why he gave Stein up, I'm 100% sure it was because he wanted to test how strong their connection was, wanted to figure out exactly where Eiling was hanging out, so later on, if the crew didn't kill him first, he could do with him what he did with him at the end.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:40 am to STEVED00
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Eiling knew where Stein lives I would assume so why even involve Wells. Stein wasn't hiding out or anything.
Actually by then Stein was hiding out at Star Labs. Barry had just convinced him to stay there and that he could get Stein's wife out of the city before Eiling could get to her.
I understand why they had Wells betray Stein instead of just having Wells turn Eiling over to Grodd to begin with. The writers wanted to emphasize to the audience Wells' "at all costs" determination to keep Barry safe.
The plot hole that made lesser sense was why Stein and the rest of the crew didn't question Wells as to why he gave Stein up. That one is a little hard for me to believe.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:45 am to BaddestAndvari
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meh, but you also don't perform a covert operation on a residential estate when you know the reporters are already onto you.
Why would you care about that when you just had an overt operation at a coffee house? Dude does not care about being covert, if so they could have grabbed Ronnie later.
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As far as Stein not saying anything to Wells... well we are talking about the smartest man alive, do you not think he would have used a drug in the drink that would knock out Stein's short term memory as well?
If so why would they not say that? Are we supposed to just make things up when they don't explain them? Something as simple as him saying "Martin you will not remember any of this" as he faints would suffice.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 11:51 am
Posted on 2/18/15 at 11:48 am to Bamatab
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I understand why they had Wells betray Stein instead of just having Wells turn Eiling over to Grodd to begin with. The writers wanted to emphasize to the audience Wells' "at all costs" determination to keep Barry safe.
That is my thoughts too. They made it seem like he was doing it to protect Barry, but then show how easily he could have done that without turning in Stein, later in the show. Was just sloppy and it could have been told better.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:05 pm to Mystery
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I understand why they had Wells betray Stein instead of just having Wells turn Eiling over to Grodd to begin with. The writers wanted to emphasize to the audience Wells' "at all costs" determination to keep Barry safe.
That is my thoughts too. They made it seem like he was doing it to protect Barry, but then show how easily he could have done that without turning in Stein, later in the show. Was just sloppy and it could have been told better.
but Wells is still a scientist that REALLY wants to know everything, and study every aspect of what the particle accelerator did to everyone.
There was also no way for Wells to just drag Eiling away like he did in the end, while he was at Star Labs - I'm sure positioned, just outside the door of the lab was a bunch of Eiling's men, what do you think they would have done if Eiling just up and disappears from the lab? Wells also doesn't want to bring any attention to himself, which would then cause the Star Labs crew to check footage if he in turn had to drag off Eiling AND all of his men, etc.
As far as the theory of Wells being future Barry... not a chance, unless the writers want to completely erase the fact that Barry himself created the Speed Force, which would mean he would NEVER need a stupid device to keep himself connected to it... he is it.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:10 pm to Mystery
Got a question: I understand the whole protection theory for Iris and her not knowing the truth about Barry but it sure seems that someone should see that her meddling is only going to lead to her not trusting anyone for keeping her out of the know. Why don't they just tell her about the flash or will that kill a storyline that may happen later?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:17 pm to Shalimar Sid
I think it's just that papa Joe doesn't want her involved so Barry (and thus the rest of the Star Labs crew) is just respecting his wishes.
But yeah, I'm sure it will come back to bite them (or at least cause some drama) at some point.
But yeah, I'm sure it will come back to bite them (or at least cause some drama) at some point.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:20 pm to Bamatab
Iris is the worst part of the show right now. Love everything else about it.
I am not to sure how they will show Caitlin becoming evil, or if the actress can pull it off.
I am not to sure how they will show Caitlin becoming evil, or if the actress can pull it off.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:25 pm to Shalimar Sid
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Why don't they just tell her about the flash or will that kill a storyline that may happen later?
Just the standard superhero plot point. They don't want to endanger her. Same thing with Arrow taking 10 years to tell his sister he has been saving lives and not ditching her.
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